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i just cooked beefburgers for dinner for the first time for my kids....

(9 Posts)
misdee Sun 06-Mar-05 17:43:17

that i can recall anyway. dd1 took her apart and ate the bun and burger seperatly, dd2 refused the burger and just ate the bun. hmmmz.

WestCountryLass Sun 06-Mar-05 19:58:42

Not a huge success then!?!?!

I gave my DS a fishfinger for the first time the other day and he said it was gross and he wasn't eating it cos it wasn't right.

morningpaper Sun 06-Mar-05 20:05:20

Hmm I could start a thread saying "First time I've cooked vegetables for my kids!"

Enid Sun 06-Mar-05 20:08:03

Mine don't like beefburgers either, dd1 will eat some burger but doesnt like the bun, dd2 likes to eat soggy, ketchupy bun but no burger, I never bother now

sparklymieow Sun 06-Mar-05 20:16:45

we had Roast chicken with veg and yorkshire pudding, a huge success, as normal. My DS hates chips and my DDs eat basically anything.

misdee Sun 06-Mar-05 20:24:22

dont think i'll bother again. i forgot to get the chicken out the freezer last night, so didnt have usual sunday roast. now if i had served them up some chicken legs with potatoes yorkshire puds and veg, they would've eaten everything except the veg, tho the dd's have now started to try some which is good. at least they ate the oranges afterwards today

misdee Sun 06-Mar-05 20:28:16

mind you, my kids wont touch sweet fillings for sandwiches either. have to make sure i always have ham in at the weekends.

KarenThirl Mon 07-Mar-05 06:49:28

I've had eating problems with my ds (age 6) for years, starting with his MMR at 15 months (I'm saying nothing). From then on his previously good eating habits went out the window and over the next few months he'd dropped off to a handful of foods, and most of those were bread.

Last summer he took an interest in the Olympics and liked the five rings, so I put five slices of carrot on his plate and gradually he ate them (this was the first veg he'd eaten in four years). Since then we've painstakingly intruduced more and he now has a repertoire of six veg and 'real' chicken, turkey and tuna. He'll even eat the odd banana.

One thing we've found is that J will eat everything in preferential order, so if I put loads of turkey on his plate or smiley face potatoes (Yes, I hate them too but he won't touch real potatoes), he'll fill up on that and won't have room for the veg. I've learned strict portion control to ensure that he gets a balanced meal, with a pudding of some kind at the end as a reward.

On the whole though, if your kids are eating ok generally I wouldn't worry if they refuse the odd 'normal' food. Personally I reckon it's a good thing if kids don't develop a taste for burgers!

FIMAC1 Sat 12-Mar-05 21:03:58

Scrotum Burgers anyone? (Copied from the Times)

Suggest you only serve Organic Burgers? You could make some easily with Organic Mince:

Copied article -

SO OFTEN in politics you come across “no-brainers” — policies that are so obviously good, popular and money-saving that you simply can’t believe they haven’t been put into practice. You want to shout: “You’ve been in office for eight years — for goodness’ sake, just get on with it!”



Improving school meals is a classic example. Only last week, Ofsted reported that behaviour in schools had not got better at all over the past eight years, despite a £660 million Government-funded Behaviour Improvement Programme. If just a small slice of that were to be siphoned into providing fresh, unjunky school lunches and reimbursing schools for banning vending machines, teachers would not have to cope with disruptive pupils fired up on caffeine, sugar, fat and E-number highs.

In one episode of Jamie Oliver’s School Dinners, an excellent series running on Channel 4, the TV chef gives a troublesome pupil decent food at lunchtime and then encourages his parents to cook it in the evening. After a week, their children’s behaviour improves dramatically; and when, as an experiment, they go back to eating rubbish, it deteriorates.

We have all watched small children go crazy at birthday parties after having gorged on crisps, chicken nuggets, chocolate and fizzy drinks. So why are we surprised that they behave badly when, at secondary school, they can buy three out of four of those from vending machines and the fourth in the canteen? Most of what passes for food at school — what Oliver calls “horrible scrotum burger and reconstituted, mechanically reclaimed sacks of old fish” — goes straight from the deep freeze to the deep fryer. Dinner ladies are generally trained not to cook, only to unpack processed food and immerse it in sizzling fat.

School lunches seem to have evolved from being inedible and slimy in my day (spam and boiled cabbage) to being unhealthy and greasy now (Turkey Twizzlers and chips). Said Twizzlers, against which Oliver rails, contain just 34 per cent turkey, the rest being made up of water, pork fat, rusk and coating, topped up with additives and flavourings.

Of course children will choose deep-fried, breadcrumb-coated nuggets with chips if these are on offer. Of course they will dose up all day on Coke if they can. These products are like drugs: they are chemically enhanced to hit the spot. But you don’t have to offer them. Nor do you have to allow children out at lunchtime to go to the local chippy instead.

In France, school lunches consist of four courses of really healthy food. They have to meet very strict nutritional standards, and many schools hire their own nutritionist to supervise the menus and liaise with parents. In Italy, a recent law obliges local councils to offer organic and high-quality products on their menus. Experiments in individual schools in Britain have shown that, once children get used to eating proper food, they enjoy it more.

But it’s not just the pupils who need educating; it is often their parents, too. Oliver was astonished to find parents abusing him for replacing rubbish food with decent fare. “It’s crap”, “It’s f*ing shit”, “Put the real food back on the menu”, were some of the insults he faced. A few parents even turned up outside the school at lunchtime with McDonald’s cartons which they slipped through the school railings to their children.

What were these parents thinking of? Ask them if they want the best for their child, and they are bound to answer “yes”. Yet they are bringing their children up to be disgustingly unhealthy, possibly obese and probably to die prematurely — not to speak of the attention deficit problems the children will suffer along the way.

We can’t stop parents serving up Turkey Twizzlers and chips for supper every day. But we can influence the food pupils eat at lunchtime. And if we can convert the children to the virtues of healthier food, they might even persuade their parents, too.

But it can’t realistically be done for 37p per child, the price of a bag of crisps. You could barely feed a dog for that money. The French spend far more, sometimes more than £1 a head. In Italy it is between 70p and 90p per pupil. Oliver reckons that, to produce a varied and nutritionally balanced menu, a school needs to spend at least 70p per child.

Parents could be asked to pay a little more, but the Government needs to stump up, too. Ministers say they want a healthier nation, they want better behaved pupils and they want to curb antisocial behaviour. Here’s a policy that could achieve all those things. It’s a no-brainer, isn’t it?

To support Jamie Oliver’s campaign, sign the petition on: www.feedmebetter.co.uk

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