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Lollipop111 Sat 21-Nov-20 22:36:37

Please help my 11 month old hardly sleeps he can go all day without sleeping he will eventually drop but then will wake up and will then be awake till gone 10pm sometimes 11 he also wakes up through the night about 3 times it’s really tiring he has so much energy and so excitable I have tried routines but he just screams for hours on end he won’t lay in his cot and sleep when I put him down awake or sleepy I’m all out of ideas now

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Lollipop111 Sat 21-Nov-20 22:42:54

Drop kick ???

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Lollipop111 Sat 21-Nov-20 22:49:12

Thank you the advice would be great obviously without harming my little one would be preferred. I’m all for trying new things but I am all out of ideas he is still currently sitting up now at this time and I’m so tired going to bed feels like it’s a no show

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SpamIAm Sat 21-Nov-20 22:51:30

I have an 11 month old. Not a chance he'd go to sleep if I just put him in his cot. He's rocked to sleep and then stays on me for naps (in the sling when his sister is also home) and I put him down asleep in his cot in the evening. He wakes up a lot more than 3 times a night though, and co-sleeps with me once I go to bed.

Waking at 10pm for a party is likely to be due to over tiredness. Mine is a pain in the arse if he hasn't had his usual naps in the day - normally 3-3.5 hours across 2 naps.

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 21-Nov-20 22:54:13

Can I ask what your routine is in the day? I know things are probably different for everyone in lockdown thanks

eggofmantumbi Sat 21-Nov-20 22:55:49

Does he nap in the buggy/ car / sling ?

I have found day sleep helps night sleep.....

It's awful though. My 8 month old is struggling at the moment. She's difficult in a different way to my older one sleep wise

Lollipop111 Sat 21-Nov-20 22:56:01

How do I get him to nap in the day and how long do people recommend the naps to be for would u say an hour at a time. I always put him down in his cot asleep I don’t have a choice. I didn’t realise him waking up and still playing at this time is cos he’s over tired either I feel really silly

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babblingbrooks Sat 21-Nov-20 22:56:28

How does he get back to sleep when he wakes in the night?

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 21-Nov-20 22:57:50

If it was me, I'd aim to have him down for his nap at 12 noon and awake again by 1.30 pm. Sleep cycles are 45 minutes at this age so that would give him 2 sleep cycles which is enough smile

babblingbrooks Sat 21-Nov-20 22:58:40

At 11 months we did (roughly) a 9-9:30 nap and 12:30-2:30.

PlantDoctor Sat 21-Nov-20 22:59:44

We just started sleep training our almost 12 month old. She was exactly as you describe only a week ago, either being fed or rocked to sleep and very easy to disturb. Health visitor recommended the "disappearing chair" technique, which I had been researching anyway.

Anyway, we started on Monday and honestly the first night she cried for 3 hours before going to sleep, but you're sat there with them and can use words and touch to calm (preferably without picking up). After the second night she's been taking about 30 mins to drop off with one of us sat with her, still needs some light singing and maybe touch too but much less crying (none some nights), and crucially she usually sleeps all night, which was absolutely unheard of for her. If she wakes, she will fall back to sleep in 5 mins.

Her naps are still a work in progress (in car or pram currently still), but after a week I'm so pleased with how well she's doing!

Lollipop111 Sat 21-Nov-20 23:00:25

He wakes at 8 he has a bottle then at 9.30 he has some porridge or weetabix or toast he then has lunch at 1 followed with water and fruit in between lunch and dinner he will have a bottle then have dinner at 5.30 bath at 6.30 and in pajamas he won’t drink his bottle if he don’t want it will just spit it out and laugh! Sometimes he has a sleep around 3pm but this is rare then he will get tired around 8pm I will give him another bottle and he will fall asleep drinking that then I put him in his cot asleep and he always wakes up about 9/10pm and that’s it then he’s awake I have to turn the tv of and lights and he will then eventually sit and calm down and drop of and I’ll put him back down again he also has a dummy but then he wakes through the night also

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NaturalStudy Sat 21-Nov-20 23:01:42

He sounds like he's very overtired OP. At that age my DC were going down for their first nap at 9/9.30am and then for their second nap about 2pm. You may need to work on his self settling. Have you tried any techniques from any books?

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 21-Nov-20 23:02:12

Ok so I'd give him a bottle at 12 and then put him in his cot or take him out for a walk/drive until he falls asleep. You can always do lunch when he wakes smile

SpillingTheTea Sat 21-Nov-20 23:03:09

My DS is 16 months and if I put him in his cot no way would he sleep.
I have to put him in the travel cot in the living room with us and he'll go to sleep in there no problem the. I transfer him to his cot.
His naps are 9:30/10 - 30ish minutes. Sometimes doesn't have a morning one though.
Afternoon 1:30/2:30 -2/3 hrs.

Bed 8:30/9 he won't go to sleep any earlier than this even if he has missed his naps lazy

SpillingTheTea Sat 21-Nov-20 23:03:30

Oops didn't mean to put lazy. Thank you auto correct 🤗

NaturalStudy Sat 21-Nov-20 23:03:57

He sounds like he may be reliant on the bottle to settle. You might want to look at breaking the bottle/sleep association, otherwise everything he wakes that is what he needs to sleep again.

Lollipop111 Sat 21-Nov-20 23:09:44

I do drive and he loves the car always falls asleep in that so tomorrow I will try to get him to nap in the day I. The hope that that helps him of a night I can tell by his eyes his tired and obviously I am to so I’m really grateful for all your advice

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2GinOrNot2Gin Sat 21-Nov-20 23:12:41

I had sleep problems with my son at this age and I tried EVERYTHING.

In the end I set a routine and stuck to it rigidly.. So I'd pick his nap times based on wake windows (you can google it to find the right times for yours). So when it was time we'd go up to bed.. make the room as dark as you possibly can and then have a little routine, I'd sit in the rocker and cuddle and sing a song and then into the cot.. no matter what we stayed in there for the duration of nap time. For a start I'd have to stay the whole time holding his hand/patting him, then eventually I'd move away and sit in the corner and eventually I could leave the room. I'd leave him to whinge but I never let him be upset. I didn't play or talk to him but I would cuddle or hum/sing.

It really isn't easy but a few weeks hard work really does pay off. He was my first though.. I don't know how I'd manage to do this with my second but I haven't got there yet. Different ways work for different babies.

SpamIAm Sat 21-Nov-20 23:14:01

My DS wakes at 7:30 generally. First nap around 9:30/10 but just depends on when he gets tired - that's usually around an hour but can be longer or shorter, as long as he has 30 minutes I'm happy. Then second nap 2:30-4pm. Bed between 7 and half past.

Although today he had a 2.5 hour afternoon nap. I do think he's a bit sleepier than other babies 😂

converseandjeans Sat 21-Nov-20 23:17:12

He sounds over tired. I would get him up 7/7.30 then aim for daytime nap 12.30/1 for couple of hours. I can't remember doing another nap by that age.
Some babies also don't like being rocked etc
Assume he's in his own room? We did used to do naps at home - I know some people don't like that idea. We used to have busy morning say 9-12ish then head home & go out for some air about 3ish.
Is he teething?

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 21-Nov-20 23:19:54

I think that's very good advice from converse smile

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