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NCT ADMIT BEDNEST COT IS DANGEROUS WHEN SIDE HALF DOWN

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MandyP111 Wed 02-Dec-15 11:11:04

I have just seen the NCT statement admitting that using the NCT Bednest cot with the side half-way down whilst you sleep next to the cot presents a risk of death to your baby!

However, this was exactly how NCT told parents to use it!

web.archive.org/web/20140722182813/http://www.nctshop.co.uk/Bednest-Bedside-Crib/productinfo/4364/) - I takes time to load up.

NCT's warning can be found at: www.nct.org.uk/announcement-statement-use-bednest-crib

Bednest are now sending parents two screws and a screwdriver! www.bednest.com/Blog-Details?NewsID=NEWS-29112015225458

MandyP111 Wed 02-Dec-15 11:22:34

I have noticed that NCT appears to have removed all trace of their 'buy now' webpage with half-fold.

scarednoob Wed 02-Dec-15 22:52:42

Is it tin foil hat time again?

TeaPleaseLouise Wed 02-Dec-15 22:58:21

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

AnchorDownDeepBreath Wed 02-Dec-15 22:59:36

You're back.

Good timing, there's lots of other things to get hysterical about at the moment.

LittleBearPad Wed 02-Dec-15 23:01:30

Hello again. Did NCT ever get back to you.

TheSecondViola Wed 02-Dec-15 23:02:34

OK, and? Sounds like they've done everything they should have done then. What's your beef?

MaisieDotes Wed 02-Dec-15 23:03:04

Ok. Thanks for keeping us up to date.

BitchPeas Wed 02-Dec-15 23:05:46

Did you buy your own cot with full instruction manual in the end?

Arfarfanarf Wed 02-Dec-15 23:11:32

It is good that they have amended their advice if there is evidence of danger.

So what happened was there is a product that was tested and determined by the proper agencies to be safe. It was marketed. There was a tragedy. As a precaution and before any investigation the product was withdrawn. There was investigation. There was found to be a fault. A warning was issued and tools to make the product already sold safe and it will be redesigned to remove this risk.

MandyP111 Thu 03-Dec-15 11:31:34

Just to respond to the question 'what's my beef' and the silly tin hats comment:

The tragedy was April 2015 and NCT have waited until the end of November 2015 (7 months) before finally warning parents. In the meantime, to NCT's knowledge, Bednest have slashed their prices to sell as many of these cots as possible.

Does it really take take NCT a 'leading charity' 7 months to work out that a baby can get its head over the edge and that the cot is dangerous?

Also, NCT continued telling parents there was no fault with the cot until late October 2015.

NCT now admit they were telling mums to use the cot in a way that risk killing babies (e.g. telling and showing mums it was safe to sleep with the cot's half-fold down - which many mums have done).

NCT have carefully avoided explaining to mums that NCT's original instructions (as per their photos/videos) was entirely wrong and exposed babies to a risk of death.

So - shame on NCT and Bednest!

If any militant NCT or Bednest supporter has an issue with this, I don't really care.

weebarra Thu 03-Dec-15 11:34:47

Not militant, an NCT or Bednest supporter. Yes it's good that there advice has changed. No need to continue to rant.

MandyP111 Thu 03-Dec-15 11:43:52

Yes - agreed. We should remain quiet and pretend that a baby did not die in precisely the same way that NCT previously told parents to use the cot and which they now admit exposes a child to a risk of death. Understood - shhhh.

Pantone363 Thu 03-Dec-15 11:47:06

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PassiveAgressiveQueen Thu 03-Dec-15 11:47:19

we should not invent another thing, in case during it's use anything bad happens.

TheSecondViola Thu 03-Dec-15 11:47:39

You are coming off kinda crazy. They sold a product that the experts said was safe. When a problem occurred, they had other experts do more tests and have now told everyone what those tests said and how to make it safer.
I don't see what else they should have done. And what are you actually looking for here? you seem very angry about it, how has it affected you personally?

TheSecondViola Thu 03-Dec-15 11:47:41

You are coming off kinda crazy. They sold a product that the experts said was safe. When a problem occurred, they had other experts do more tests and have now told everyone what those tests said and how to make it safer.
I don't see what else they should have done. And what are you actually looking for here? you seem very angry about it, how has it affected you personally?

fastdaytears Thu 03-Dec-15 11:47:45

Oh hi welcome back.

A baby died tragically and accidentally, so now the advice has been changed.

you are getting tin hat comments because you do have a very obsessive posting style and it's not clear what you're hoping to achieve

Gobbolinothewitchscat Thu 03-Dec-15 11:50:31

If you read the NCT announcement, the reason for the "delay" was because the NCT were obtaining expert reports from a furniture expert and a consultant paed.

I don't know the ins and outs of the very sad death of the baby but it maybe the case that the coroner did not make a definitive finding about the usage of the bednest. That being the case, further expert evidence had to be obtained.

PurpleHairAndPearls Thu 03-Dec-15 11:53:16

I remember OP's previous thread and I believe OP has some other issues either in their own mental health or around this tragedy. I don't think it's on to hurl insults like "unhinged" in these circumstances.

MandyP111 Thu 03-Dec-15 11:58:42

My point is that NCT seem to be trying to avoid admitting the fact that as a result of their marketing/instructions, a cot has been used in a way that led to the death of a baby.

NCT have not gone out of their way to inform parents of this risk and Bednest waited a further week before announcing the risk of death to people on their website. This is why I have posted this information.

So if this comes across as crazy or as obsessive, I don't care.

TheSecondViola Thu 03-Dec-15 11:59:40

OP, you're not telling the truth here. The very sad case of the baby who died: the second hand cot had not been used correctly, with it tilted far higher than it was supposed to be. The baby had also been placed to sleep face down, against all general recommendations AND against the instructions on the cot.
Why are you blaming the NCT when someone wrongly used a cot that is made by another company?

Whatdoidohelp Thu 03-Dec-15 12:07:17

I think NCT needed to speak on this well before now but the truth is is that the parents used the cot wrong and against all advise they put the baby face down. A tragic tragic accident. The NCT is not fully to blame on this.

TheSecondViola Thu 03-Dec-15 12:09:58

Actually not at all to blame for it.

DeirdreDoo Thu 03-Dec-15 12:12:14

WhatI don't get is how you're meant to wake up every time your baby turns onto their stomach?

Mine would never stay on their backs. It isn't like you put them down a certain way up and they stay there, is it?

Babies wriggle.

I don't understand how it can be a case of having to make sure they are a certain way up or they are in danger from this piece of equipment.

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