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my health visitor is useless. how's yours

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Suzy4321 Sat 28-Nov-15 16:32:19

This is my first baby so I have nothing to compare with. And everyone I know says "oh ask the health visitor". But she is terrible. Very nice but seems to have massive lack of knowledge. My neighbour has the same HV and she can't stand her. To top it off just found out she is not fully qualified still learning. I know everyone has to learn but I kind of expect the HV who supposed to be the expert in things to know stuff. Can I ask for a different one as I feel like I have 201 questions to ask and end up googling everything????

Like I say she is nice but I don't need nice I need advice

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 28-Nov-15 16:47:13

I ended up trying to educate mine. Googling isn't always great though, as you've probably found out already, as very little of the results will be based on evidence and will just be opinion.

You can always ask us of course smile

Bonkerz Sat 28-Nov-15 16:51:19

Unfortunately I found our local health visitors were the same. They were never around when we needed them. Never returned calls and when we did see them they didn't give advice more barked out orders.
The last time my son saw the health visitor was at 15 months old. He's now at school!
Main jobs like 2 year checks etc are conducted by level 3 nursery nurses who are more text book than experience.

Ripeningapples Sat 28-Nov-15 16:51:03

What sort of questions do you feel you need to ask her OP?

Suzy4321 Sat 28-Nov-15 17:01:24

Ok here are my questions but as I say new mum. I have know idea but would love some advice. Silly questions but:- we have no central heating in house so I have a blow heater in babies room. The room is nice and toasty but during night it drops to around 16 degrees now baby was in a 2.5 grobag but I have bought a 3.5 tog one that says for 16 degrees and lower. Does this mean that I should start her off in 2.5 tog and in night change to a3.5 tog. Or just do 3.5 tog straight away. Can't leave blow heater on the room would bake, i don't want to over heat her or make her cold.

Cradle cap. Nothing seems to work baby not bothered so do I need to try anything else on it.

Teething- she has been teething for two months. Other than calpol everything upsets her tummy. Can't use gels or powders as she has very bad acid. But concerned about having too much calpol. She has 2.5ml every other night

annandale Sat 28-Nov-15 17:06:48

No idea about heat levels.

Teething: I don't think that's too much calpol at all (well below the dosing recommendation and there's a big safety margin built into that) but if you've been using any over the counter medication for 2 months, I'm afraid I would just wave her under the nose of the GP.

Cradle cap: I actually would tackle this because I'm a sporner because it can really linger (ds had cradle cap, cradle cap, cradle cap and now at 11 has dandruff). I presume you've tried the classic methods such as massaging in oil at night, leaving it and then brush with a soft brush in the morning? Plain vegetable oil would do. You would probably need to do this several times, though. I personally think lots of combing and brushing is needed

FattyNinjaOwl Sat 28-Nov-15 17:11:32

I can't answer sleeping bags as never used them with any of mine.
Cradle cap- baby oil, leave over night, comb in morning.
Teething. Something to chomp on. (Mine all liked my knuckles over toys!) And only give calpol when absolutely necessary and you have exhausted all other options. (red hot cheeks, crying, in pain, chomping a lot) if still every other night then see GP. They may be able to give you something. how old is baby?
I used biccie pegs for my DC. (Teething biscuits)

BertieBotts Sat 28-Nov-15 17:13:09

Ask MN grin It's definitely better!

I had two rubbish HVs and one really nice/good one.

Okay for temperature - I would go with the 2.5 tog and put one of those cellular blankets with the squares on top when you go to bed. Don't leave the blow heater on overnight, it's a fire risk.

Cradle cap they grow out of. If it isn't bothering her you can safely ignore it. I found the Dentinox cradle cap shampoo worked, though.

Calpol might be a bit much - I think you do need to seek medical advice on this as you're not meant to use it constantly. It can be hard on the kidneys. If you've been happy with the idea of powders, it's worth going to Boots or a health food shop and asking if they have chamomila 6c pillules. They are tiny dissolvable spheres which have the same ingredients as the powders but they're so small they shouldn't upset her tummy. Not large enough to be a choking risk, so safe for babies.

Outaboutnowt Sat 28-Nov-15 17:14:21

Have you tried Anbesol for the teething OP? It's a liquid rather than a gel and absorbs straight into the gums and numbs the pain. I was recommended it by the chemist and it seems to work on DS, especially at bedtime when he's grizzly over his teeth.

Our HVs have been really hit and miss tbh - we rarely see the same one twice. One lady was great but the other two we've seen weren't too helpful - one of them didn't seem to actually listen to anything I said but just talked over me about her kids.
So I've come to rely on MN smile

FanFuckingTastic Sat 28-Nov-15 17:16:01

New HVs are expected to take on the full load as those who have qualified for a long while. It's a one year Masters course, partly in university, partly in the workplace, and it's impossible to cover everything, so there are often times she isn't entirely knowledgeable as others may be.

But she acknowledges that and works out a plan to compensate for that, like a second visit, or a phonecall to a colleague, she doesn't just dismiss it or ignore the need to give you answers. Newly qualified, they are meant to have a smaller caseload and only be given the less complicated visits, but it doesn't happen. She is technically qualified, and if they aren't then they should tell you they are a student HV, and usually be shadowed by a qualified HV.

There aren't enough HVs at the moment and they are recruiting for more, so if they often aren't available, it may mean that they are currently having to deal with a large caseload of safeguarding visits, which are generally time consuming. Not returning calls is rude and unprofessional, but there being a delay is often unavoidable.

If you have a HV you don't feel happy with, you could ask for another one, because if there is no rapport there, then obviously it's not good for you and the baby. Give feedback if you feel they aren't doing something right, they'll get more training/disciplined if they are consistently getting it wrong.

I've been uncomfortable with certain HCP and have always been able to ask to see a different person, like when I specified not wanting to see any male social workers.

BertieBotts Sat 28-Nov-15 17:21:54

Oh and yes to things to chew on! Celery apparently has a slight anaesthetic effect so celery sticks are good. You can freeze diluted juice, water, or milk (including breast/formula) in ice lolly moulds for her to gum on. And you know those kind of cloths which are like thin sponges, those are good cut up, soaked in water and frozen to chew on, just make sure they don't come with soap already soaked into them.

Katarzyna79 Sat 28-Nov-15 17:30:51

hi op

I hated most hv that came by the house. But i.found more mature ones on phone or baby health clinics where u get baby weighed checked were helpful.

To be honest i found books very helpful.

never used grobag but id use lower tog when heater is on. After heater is off switch to higher tog bag.

for cradle cap i found keeping head hair free made it easier to really rub oil in snd encourage skin to fall off also it was less pongy lol. have you tried any shampoos i used a basic one recommended to me detinox its not expensive easily available but there are newer ones on market too. wash scalp everyday and rub in oil. I suspect it goes with time rather than medications working 3 of my 4 kids had it.

Have u tried teething plastic ring thing? its filled with water already u just pop in fridge when baby moans let her bite tha, all my kids loved that. I would avoid calpol unless crying goes on for too long.

Oh the joys of parenting im notookijg forward to it again sad it does get better least shes not throwing up solids yet u have that to look forward to ;)

icklekid Sat 28-Nov-15 17:35:01

My health visitors have always been brilliant but I know I'm lucky and probably in the minority!

Gro bag I would use 3.5 all night without worrying.

Capol when needed but don't just give out of habit.

Cradle cap no idea I'm afraid

RoganJosh Sat 28-Nov-15 17:35:40

IME fan heaters' heat disappears very quickly, so if you don't put it in in the evening you may find it still only drops to 16. So you could start the room cooler and start off with the 3.5 bag.

CottonSock Sat 28-Nov-15 17:42:23

I have an electronic oil filled radiator in dd room with built in thermostat, use with plug timer to come on between midnight and 5 am. It was about £35 and cheap to run. Stops me worrying about out cold house.

Not sure how old your baby is, but my DD loves calpol and started wanting it when I didn't feel she was teething as its sweet and sticky. I would try and use some other things first, but do give if she's suffering

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 28-Nov-15 18:11:53

Another vote for getting an oil filled radiator with a thermostat if you can.

That's not too much calpol at all.

Cradle cap, dentin of shampoo is good as is rubbing in olive oil or coconut oil.

Suzy4321 Sat 28-Nov-15 18:13:01

Baby girl is 6 months. I have another question. She has been weaning for two weeks to help with her acid. I'm confused about formula. She has breakfast. Then bottle at 10. 12 fruit 2 bottle 5 some more food 6 bottle and 10 bottle. My question is she only has formula in bottle no extra water. As I literally would run out of time between feeds bottles and naps. As formula is 7oz made up with water is this enough water throughout the day. She is always peeing but just wondering if this is ok. I have books etc and they all vary hope this makes sense

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 28-Nov-15 18:13:34

Oh and if she's under 6 months please don't give her juice, water or celery.

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 28-Nov-15 18:15:34

That's enough water. I would offer her water in a zippy cup with her meals though, just to get her used to it.

At this age the advice is to give food roughly an hour after her bottle and only to offer food once or twice a day. It doesn't even have to be every day.

What sorts of things is she having for breakfast?

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 28-Nov-15 18:19:21

Forgot to say, if she's 6 months try a frozen banana for the teething, makes a great breakfast too.

Other things you can try are big chunks of cucumber or a cold, clean wet flannel to chew on. The formula lollies are great and have a go at making your own lollies, there is a recipe heresmile

Suzy4321 Sat 28-Nov-15 18:43:02

She has porridge, cereal, fruit banana yoghurt. She loves everything. Lunch is spag Bol , roast or veggies. Shepherds pie etc. Evening fruit or veggies.

Suzy4321 Sat 28-Nov-15 18:44:06

This is so helpful thanks everyone.

MiaowTheCat Sun 29-Nov-15 12:26:46

Our whole HV team are pretty good around here. HV nailed the cause of DD2's difficulties straight away (she was allergic to CMP) and really helped push the GP from hell into getting on the ball with Neocate prescriptions - to the extent that at one point she refused to leave the GP surgery until they did one for her. You tend to see the assistants after about age 1 though - but, bar one of them who talked to me like I was utter shit and I asked not to deal with again - and never had to, they've been really good too - I rang up to request a hearing check referral for DD2 the other day and it was put through that same day with an appointment in about a fortnight's time - no fuss or bother at all.

I've generally been very lucky with ours though. Apart from the one who kept trying to get me to go to baby clinic for a hug from her!

BertieBotts Sun 29-Nov-15 19:07:35

Yes sippy cup of water with meals, if only because it's a new skill she needs to learn. If she's over 6 months no need to boil her drinking water. Obv still make up bottles with boiling water.

na5ima Mon 30-Nov-15 10:14:04

Aaww I had a nice and helpful HV but I might be just lucky.

Grobag I'd say 3.5tog
Calpol just give her a normal recommend dose when you feel like she needs it..
Cradle cap try coconut oil.. It was magical on my son and only on his head.. Wash it and then apply and apply as many times.. I use to do it every nappy change

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