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Cot death/SIDS prevention/solution

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louisnz Fri 23-Jan-15 13:31:16

Felt I had to share this and no, no shares in the company below but I am a kiwi grin

This gets a lot of publicity in NZ and I'm surprised that this gets no air time here.

The figures speak for themselves - zero SIDS with babies on wrapped mattresses.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 16:18:01

I don't think it is really considered much of a viable theory in the UK. One of the first MN threads I read was on this -2002 or 03 I would guess.

5madthings Fri 23-Jan-15 16:25:17

Well given that babies die from sids when they are sleeping in places other than a cot with a mattress I think it's bollocks.

And.I agree it has been discredited in the UK and with further studies.

5madthings Fri 23-Jan-15 16:29:48

The nz government and health service don't agree or support his w

5madthings Fri 23-Jan-15 16:30:09

Don't agree or supper his work either.

5madthings Fri 23-Jan-15 16:33:56

Support, fgs.

louisnz Fri 23-Jan-15 16:43:51

I was sceptical too until reading this...

"A 100% successful crib death prevention campaign has been going on in New Zealand for the past 11 years. Midwives and other healthcare professionals throughout New Zealand have been actively advising parents to wrap mattresses. During this time, there has not been a single SIDS death reported among the over 100,000 New Zealand babies who have slept on mattresses wrapped in a specially formulated polyethylene cover. The number of crib deaths in New Zealand that have occurred since mattress-wrapping began in 1994 is about 810. The number of crib deaths that have occurred in New Zealand on a properly wrapped mattress is zero."

SallyStarbuck Fri 23-Jan-15 16:49:25

OK, so the argument is that cot death is caused by toxic gases in mattresses.

So surely that should mean that no baby ever died of sudden infant death syndrome before we started using mattresses?

Which is clearly untrue.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 16:51:32

Those stats don't show anything though. You don't know how many babies slept on wrapped mattresses. Or have controls for the many socio economic factors that make SIDS less likely. And of course the period coincides with back to sleep.

Stealthpolarbear Fri 23-Jan-15 16:52:08

So has the nz government made it illegal to sell cot mattresses without thwm?
As others have pointed out children die of sids when not in cot, so I suspect this is a categorisation difference.

3littlefrogs Fri 23-Jan-15 16:53:12

This was done years ago.
The programmes and campaign was fronted by Anne Diamond, who was later devastated to find she had essentially been conned into promoting expensive mattresses.

louisnz Fri 23-Jan-15 16:53:16

The NZ figures show zero cot deaths in 100k - irrefutable IMO

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 16:54:51

No. Not irrefutable. The sort of parent who will wrap a mattress is likely to follow lots of advice and be affluent. Big factors in SIDS.

You do sound like you are selling them now tbh.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 17:00:00

Also, very sadly babies have died of sids in car seats and even parents arms.sad

squizita Fri 23-Jan-15 17:05:37

One of the biggest risks for cot death is falling asleep holding your baby. Mattresses can't be the only cause.

Also, I thought Nz had issues with preventing SIDS hence several recent studies?

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 17:11:25

Actually Squizita, that is suffocation/overlaying, not SIDS. They shouldn't be lumped together by medical literature but often are. SIDS is where there is no obvious cause. sad

squizita Fri 23-Jan-15 17:23:15

Ah I did wonder as I thought the risk would be dropping them or smothering them more likely than SIDS.

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 17:27:57

Sorry, there is a 'usually ' missing in my previous post.

squizita Fri 23-Jan-15 17:28:14

Sally also these gases are the same regardless of materials, shape, thickness of mattress? Which must vary a lot Place to place.
I'm also dubious - If it were that simple and to do with only mattresses how come, as Penguins mentions, is income and steady lifestyle considered a factor?

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 17:29:01

Cross post. Yes, that is exactly the risk. Or being wedged down cushions etc.sad

louisnz Fri 23-Jan-15 17:32:24

The NZ rates are getting better with better government campaigning. There higher SIDS rates are in low income demographics like anywhere else.

I'm no expert and don't have all the facts, nor do I sell mattress wraps confused If the zero deaths in 100k figure is true, it's worth thinking about that's all.

Likewise if someone can show that these numbers are not credible, please shout!

squizita Fri 23-Jan-15 17:35:55

Hmm the blog links to a bit of an almost conspiracy theory post about how charities and the government are blocking research because they don't believe it. Cause you know, anti SIDS charities have an interest in preventing legit research to stop SIDS.

Well that blog is going to cause angst to parents and self blame to victims isn't it?
With the get out of jail free cArd of a "cover up".
I mean why would there be a cover up!?

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 17:38:17

Does the NO government officially recommend wrapping then?

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 17:38:35

NZ. Blooming autocorrect

PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 23-Jan-15 17:42:21

You have missed my point about demographics. Let's be blunt. Richard people who can afford mattress wrapping have low SIDS risk for lots of reasons. You aren't comparing similar populations.

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