Advanced search

What's for lunch today? Take inspiration from Mumsnetters' tried-and-tested recipes in our Top Bananas! cookbook - now under £10

Find out more

Is this safe?

(30 Posts)
AlfieBear87 Mon 22-Apr-13 09:38:32

I have a 4 week old newborn. He sleeps well in his crib for the first half of the night, but gets a bit windy and fidgety after his second feed at about 3am. For the last 3 nights he's not really slept at all after 4am. Last night, at about 5am I put a pillow in his crib and laid him on it. The wind seemed to ease straight away and he went straight to sleep and didn't wake up until 8.30am.

Is it safe for him to sleep on a pillow? Just to clarify - his whole body is on it, not just his head. He's ebf, he's in our room, he uses a dummy, we use the angelcare movement monitor and we don't smoke so his SIDS risk is as low as we can make it.

If its not safe does anyone know of a safe alternative?


RAFdad Mon 22-Apr-13 09:43:28

I wouldn't guess it is safe. They wriggle and can maybe turn over onto there fronts etc. having a soft pillow will not allow them to push themselves up. So this can pose a massive suffocation risk. There are specially designed crib pillows in John Lewis. They are perfect for your situation.

RAFdad Mon 22-Apr-13 09:49:11

mybelovedmonster Mon 22-Apr-13 09:51:05

Could you look for a softer mattress?

noblegiraffe Mon 22-Apr-13 09:51:23

No, not safe. Babies are also supposed to sleep on a firm mattress.

AlfieBear87 Mon 22-Apr-13 09:59:30

Thanks for the help. So frustrating when you find a way to help them sleep but then can't use it! But definitely don't want to jeopardise his well being.

That John Lewis bed looks very interesting. Have you had any experience in using one RAFdad?

RAFdad Mon 22-Apr-13 10:05:22

We tried our DD in one in JL on Saturday. She looked so comfy. But was going to wait until she is about 6-8 weeks once we move here from the Moses basket to a cot. But they look amazing and perfect for little wrigglers smile

noblegiraffe Mon 22-Apr-13 10:13:41

That's quite expensive for a baby who sleeps well in their crib till 3am! (Honestly, that's really good at 4 weeks old). My baby was also a bit unsettled after the 3am feed for a bit, but it was only a very short period of time (she's now 12 weeks and has slept brilliantly since I can't remember when).

Cheaper options: have you tried swaddling? A sleeping bag instead of blankets? (This would give padding underneath). Winding for longer at 3am or tummy massage? White noise?

mybelovedmonster Mon 22-Apr-13 10:24:16

I'd be worried about overheating with that kind of cot pillow - but I've not seen one in the flesh so can't really comment.

SquidgersMummy Mon 22-Apr-13 10:32:31

I had a friend who used one of those baby sleep positioners - position baby on their side for wind/reflux but again I'd personally be reluctant with such a small baby. Does side sleeping help any? If so could you safely cosleep just for those few hours? We cosleep now but I didn't start until dd was 5mths as I was a bit nervous about it beforehand. The movement monitor will pick up if they're on their side though the research says side sleeping not as safe as back sleeping...

Fuckwittery Mon 22-Apr-13 10:39:25

I had something like this
That's an Australian site and I got mine from the US and haven't on a quick google found anything like it on a UK site but hopefully you could fine on amazon or eBay. Baby wedge pillows they are called, you can get just the wedge or just the side bits separately like but the favourite in our house was the combo. I also had just the side bits which I used to wedge the babies in their prams.

dadinthehat Mon 22-Apr-13 11:00:03

We used to fold a towel or blanket and place it UNDER the mattress to raise one end up slightly. That might be all he needs. Good luck.

AlfieBear87 Mon 22-Apr-13 11:29:29

It is quite expensive! He is doing well sleep wise, but I'm struggling to start the day at 4am with a newborn and 16mo to look after.

He doesn't like being swaddled unfortunately as he likes to sleep with his arms up by his head. I've yet to find a sleeping bag small enough for him although I plan to use one as soon as I do! He's rubbish at bringing wind up - it all goes down! I've tried holding him upright for up to an hour after feeding - he'll be fast asleep on me and then as soon as I put him down the knees come up and the squealing starts.

I'll try propping the crib up a bit tonight and will have a look at the cot wedges. He tends to sleep mostly on his side anyway (he does it himself).

Thanks for all the advice, my eldest never suffered particularly with wind so I'm in new territory.

mybelovedmonster Mon 22-Apr-13 12:20:26

Have you tried infacol?

AlfieBear87 Mon 22-Apr-13 15:57:49

We had him on infacol for a week but I didn't notice any difference. Maybe it's worth another go.

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Apr-13 16:02:05

Prop up the basket at one end, might help wirh being a bit.more upright.

Also, try Swaddling under the armpits round his chest, then arms are still free.

mybelovedmonster Mon 22-Apr-13 16:05:12

I can't remember (too long ago) but does infacol take a little while to work? Definitely worth another try.

Are you BF or FF? Certain brands of formula made DS incredibly windy.

mybelovedmonster Mon 22-Apr-13 16:05:29

SOrry, ignore that - I see he's ebf.

ExBrightonBell Mon 22-Apr-13 20:26:30

AlfieBear, we used the Sleepyhead with our ds who didn't like being put down in his cot. Although expensive, I found it to be excellent and my ds slept much better on it. It seems that my ds just preferred to be more snuggly, without being swaddled.

Also we took it with us when going away and using a travel cot/unfamiliar cot. This really helped ds to settle in that situation, as he was still being put down into a familiar setting.

My ds had been in SCBU after being born, and they always used rolled up blankets placed around him to achieve the same effect. I think that's why he liked being in the Sleepyhead.

AlfieBear87 Wed 24-Apr-13 04:41:29

Thanks for all the advice. Last night I wrapped a blanket around the mattress underneath the sheet to provide slightly more padding, I raised the cot head slightly and used a large cellular blanket as a positioner and he slept for 6 hours straight!! I couldn't believe it. We've not had quite as successful night tonight but he does seem slightly more comfortable after a feed.

I really want to try one of the sleepyheads, I'm just a bit put off by the price after we've already bought a Moses basket and we're miles away from the nearest John Lewis so can't go and look at one first. It's interesting what you say about the SCBU connection though ex as my little one was in there for the first 24 hours of his life too. It seems that he wants the freedom to move his arms and legs but still feel secure and snuggly.

babySophieRose Wed 24-Apr-13 09:06:31

We used a baby pillow under the cot sheet, but for other reason - to prevent flat head. Can you put the pillow under the sheet just to be on the safe side?

Katekoom Sun 01-Feb-15 04:28:00

Our mw suggested rolling a towel into a sausage then laying it in the cot in a u shape with babies feet at bottom of the u. The top edges can't come any higher than armpit level for safety reasons. She seems to like the cosiness and it's free! Plus there's nothing to cover her face.

maymow Sun 01-Feb-15 20:06:42

The 'love to dream' swaddle sack might be good if you want something that is snuggly but still freedom to move arms/legs. Amazon or jojomaman sell them.

Izzy82 Sun 01-Feb-15 21:00:16

I was going through exactly the same. My son would sleep until 3/4 and the afterwards would wake every hour. I bought a sleepyhead. He slept for 7 hours straight, woke for a feed then went back for another 3. I would pay double- what a god send.
It's not the same as a rolled up pillow! Towels because it is made from breathable material so baby will not over heat.

RebeccaCloud9 Sun 01-Feb-15 21:24:23

Vertbaudet have some 0-3 month sleeping bags. Gripe water worked better for us than infacol.

Join the discussion

Registering is free, easy, and means you can join in the discussion, watch threads, get discounts, win prizes and lots more.

Register now »

Already registered? Log in with: