Just thinking (as the boys been difficult today) that most of us worry about doing the right thing with our kids. Isn't anything we do, within reason of course (no beatings, etc) the right thing?

[TheOriginalFAB]

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[Tee2072]

Yes.

[Tee2072]

I hereby declare this the shortest thread ever.

[TheOriginalFAB]

[mrsnesbit]

Yup. I think so. Unless you are overtly abusive or neglectful, i think that we all do our very best for our children.

Im a bit naive tbh becuase i cant bear to think of any harm coming to any child anywhere.

[Tee2072]

Actually, I think it was the shortest thread with the longest title!

[LynetteScavo]

Hmmm, now you see I have this dilema...do I be a kind a loving parents and tidy their bedrooms for them, even though I'm knackered, or do I attempt to promote independence by asking them to do it themselves, (which they either won't do, or will do very badly.

Please tell me I am a good parent if I do it for them. It will make me feel so much better.

[TheOriginalFAB]

Had a lovely morning. DS1 not keen to go out but he said later he was wrong to say that.

Last 2 hours have been dreadful. I have shouted,. A lot. Very loudly. Kids now banished to their rooms. DH due home any minute and I can barely be bothered to talk to him. He has blamed me in the past for them being naughty and he gets pissed off some times when I phone at work for support (and to take 5 minutes so I don't walk out or smash something) and I get pissed off that he seems to blame me.

[thestringcheeseincident]

How often do you phone your DH about them?

Why don't you draw a line under it all, get them down from their rooms and have a nice night together. It's the first night of holidays after all.

[TheOriginalFAB]

We speak once a day but not always about the kids. I ring him if I need to calm down. I am far too pissed off to draw a line under it, the fact they break up yesterday is irrelevant.

[Tee2072]

Fab, I'm a shouty mum. It's not something I'm 100% proud of but I also accept it about myself. Not that I don't feel bad when I lose my temper, but better a shout than a smack, IMHO.

My son is only just over 2 but I do think it's important that he learn that Mummy can only take so much before she's going to get angry. It's part of learning that mummy and daddy are people.

[TheOriginalFAB]

I agree but I also know that if I cried I think they would laugh and it wouldn't have any affect. DS1 just came down and asked if they could come out of their rooms . DH and I ate tea together, in peace and now we are watching the news. I am sure they know he is home and it will be bugging them as they will want to see him. My head feels like it is about to explode and I am bloody angry they wouldn't leave the cat alone.

[Tee2072]

Actions have consequences. This they need to learn.

Is your DH backing you up?

[TheOriginalFAB]

DH went up to them, did their teeth, gave them a drink and told them to stay in their rooms/go to bed. He said he will speak to them in the morning as he didn't want to give them any more attention.

[Tee2072]

Good for him. Glad he's got your back.

[MegBusset]

I had a hellish afternoon with mine too, must be the holiday excitement, and a fair bit of shouting went on. I'm not proud but it's a (thankfully) not too common event that they're so awful. Have a and remember tomorrow is another day :)

[TheOriginalFAB]

I see the irony if me posting this thread.. It is the complete opposite to my other one.

[TheOriginalFAB]

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