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francagoestohollywood · 09/06/2009 13:41

welcome!

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Rosa · 09/06/2009 14:12

ci sono.....

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gio71 · 09/06/2009 15:00

ciao! Rosa tissues will be needed, I will be a wreck when he starts

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DamonBradleylovesPippi · 09/06/2009 15:06

15!!!????? WOW!!!!

Franca when/if we arrange a date why don't you come down to Rome for a few days?

Ah tent, McM Dh bough a great 4 men tent on amazon which was really spacious. I think he paid 80pounds? It's from Coleman and it's called... will ask. It's a great one I can send you a picture of when he put it up in the graden if you like.

franca I'm glad you have rows as well. I though it was just us.

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francagoestohollywood · 09/06/2009 15:18

Of course we had rows! How much do you think I nagged/rowed about the flat I thought we should have bought? A LOT.

Gio, guess where I've been this morning (leaving the dc with my aunt for 2 hrs)? To ZARA HOME. It's paradise on earth.

Oh yes, post the pics if mcc lets you! I'm ready for camping. Me and my dear friend this morning (while on the zara mission) were thinking of going to one of those big campeggi nr punta ala next yr (me and this friend of mine usually make holiday plans every other day... we have a list of possible locations that's a meter long!)

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francagoestohollywood · 09/06/2009 15:19

we have rows I mean.

Yes, a roman meet up would be fab. Mind you, I have a wedding in tuscany in mid sept.

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Camomilla · 09/06/2009 21:32

thanks everyone, sorry had to disappear last night as DD woke up and then went to bed. DP followed me soon after, giving me a cuddle, and me shrugging him off, I was NOT going to let the guard down this time. didn't speank to hime this morning, then when he came back from the school run he apologised, he really was very sorry, he definetly realised that what he said hurt, he said "It came out wrong" and I was right in feeling hurt, that his parents haven't insisted, but he just doesn;'t want the debt over my shoulders, and I agree perfectly with him, he said he'd already spoken to the will guy yesterday and basically if I sell the house I'll give the money back to his parents, rest is mine and DCs, which is what makes perfectly sense. But Pippi, yes, it was that sentence, not the money (and words I know PIL would have used), and I know he's always in between and it's difficult (we had many arguments in the past with his dad), I think his dad can't accept he's a grown man, he's always putting him down and remind him/us what he's done for us, so obviously DP didn;t want that to carry on if he dies. glad that he said that yesterday was probably one of the worst days of his life, that he doesn't want that to happen again, must mean something, especially as the apology was a proper apology, not a "it will be forgotten soon" type thing. Anyway, enough of this, have to save my ranting allowance for when FIL's here in a couple of days (so sorry, I pre-warn you so you can just skip my posts )

Gio - for the school!!!, now keeping fingers crossed for pippi!

hope all ok with DD, franca

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Sputnik · 09/06/2009 21:39

Glad you got things sorted Camo.
I really think you deserved a grovelling apology!

Had a nice afternoon with Delgirl. Our respective DDs disappeared together and basically entertained each other for a couple of hours while we had a cup of tea and a chat, it was lovely (DS is so self-sufficient he just pootled quietly in the background!).

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francagoestohollywood · 09/06/2009 21:46

Oh Camo, so happy to hear this . Good on your dh !

Sputnik, sounds like you had a lovely afternoon, it is so nice when children get along easily!

Dd was good today, took her to the paed, mostly because we are off on sat for 10 days. Paed said: the throat is a bit red, but it's the best throat I have seen in days" . Apparently there is a wide range of nasty virus around. Well, lets hope she's ok now.
I have a million errands to run in the next 3 days, including paying my taxes.

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Camomilla · 09/06/2009 22:00

yes, definetly grovelling, he even went round TK Maxx with me without complaining once

franca, glad DD's fine, hopefully she'll be completly recovered for sat

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francagoestohollywood · 09/06/2009 22:04

A trip to tkmaxx without complaining... that is a loooooooooooooong coda di paglia

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gio71 · 10/06/2009 06:58

Am really glad it is sorted out Camo and very impressed you got him into TK Maxx.
Franca am re Zara Home trip. I have been so restrained of late it's depressing!

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DamonBradleylovesPippi · 10/06/2009 09:22

Camo so so glad everything has been sorted and that he apologiesed! Ahhhhhh I can see the cloud been lifted in the Camo's house .

My DH looooves TK Maxx !

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DamonBradleylovesPippi · 10/06/2009 09:23

Dh and I are going to have a long chat on holiday (away fri btw).

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Rosa · 10/06/2009 10:26

Well done Camo - glad its all sorted and maybe he will remember this when more IL conversations come up !!!
AT nido today out of 15 remaining only 7 were there... high temp bug is doing teh rounds but by now whe has either got it or not as it will have infected her !! Our luck is she will go down on Friday thus stuffing up the holiday !!!! Well we diddn't have children to put them in glass cages.
Franca gald your dd is on the mend so its Croatia on sat ??? Has your dh sorted it all out.
I have done 1 bag and dh now has to take the bag , travel cot , ready bed to the car I then have to get everything else in the second and thats that !!!!!
SO big abscence next week then ????
Sput glad you had a nice time with delgirl is she moving over fisso now ?

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Penthesileia · 10/06/2009 11:14

franca - I'm so dim - you're off to Croatia?! I love Croatia. Ooooh, I'm so envious.

Camo - glad to hear your DH saw the error of his ways. Your FIL sounds like a piece of work, though. I know the feeling...

Gosh - Rosa and Pippi off on hols too!

Are you all looking forward to it?

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gio71 · 10/06/2009 12:16

How long are you all going for? Am jealous-June is nicest time to go to the sea I think, wish we werent restricted to Aug but dps job

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gio71 · 10/06/2009 12:17

by dps job I meant

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francagoestohollywood · 10/06/2009 12:19

You dh likes TKmaxx? ! Oh I'd love dh to at least mildly enjoy to go to any kind of shop but he hates it. The rare volte we go to the supermarket together he looks so lost and spaced out I get really pissed off

Penthe, yes, we are going first to trieste and then to istria. We'll be back on the 23 of June. I'm such a saddo I even contemplated to get a chiavetta to MN from the laptop from our tent

Rosa, of course dh hasn't organized anything. We are going all'avventura. And I can nag him no end....
Yes, lots of nasty virus doing the rounds and children off school

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francagoestohollywood · 10/06/2009 12:21

Pippi I have emailed you, let me know if you get it as my connection is weird.

Gio, it is really lucky this year as dh doesn't have appelli (exams) in the last 2 weeks of June, so off we go. I really hope we can do the same next yr, I really want to go to Puglia.

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gio71 · 10/06/2009 12:40

ok so the million questions start already from Gio re scuola materna.
How well did your dcs speak when they started? My ds has been a slow starter on that front. As I think you all do, we speak to him in our mother tongues, as he is mainly with me he has had more exposure to English than Italian. He is improving notably every day now, repeats every word we say and is starting to put small phrases together but is definitely leaning more towards English than Italian. My PITA FIL is voicing dire predictions of how he will have no friends at school because noone will be able to understand him (he is of the belief we shouldnt have tackled both languages at once). I have no doubt that we are doing the right thing long term but on the other hand hate to think of him struggling because of it . He is 2.5 and will be nearly 3 when he starts.

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francagoestohollywood · 10/06/2009 12:58

Oh Gio, your FIL is really a big PITA! Of course you did the right thing, it's what linguists advise to do, btw. ANd of course his English is now better than his Italian and it is totally normal that his language is not a 100%.
I have just watched a video we took of ds at age 2.5 (we spoke italian at home and ds started nursery in exeter at 15 months twice a week. He was a late talker. It might have been the exposition to 2 different languages, or it might have been meant to be, iyswim. By the way, he started to talk, make sentences in italian when he was 2). In that video ds talks a lot (quelle surprise!) but gosh his italian is appalling! I didn't realized that... he even had an english accent, which I had never really noticed then!
So, I wouldn't worry about your ds's "delays". And it's totally rubbish saying he won't make friends because of the language. He will be inserito with other children more or less his age, at a similar developmental stage.
Do you know if the classes will be eterogenee per eta' or omogenee?

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francagoestohollywood · 10/06/2009 13:04

Sorry, I forgot to say that your ds's Italian has probably been established already. Does he understands everything?

Also, in a good nursery school I think they do lots of esercizi di verbalizzazione (like dd's teachers call them , which of course follow the developmental stages of the children. And they sing, they sing a lot, which really helps!

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francagoestohollywood · 10/06/2009 13:08

And is your ds shy? It takes most of the children a few months to start having "friends", it mainly depends on their temperament.
Btw, there is a little girl from china in ds's class (prima elementare). She didn't speak a single word in sept. Guess who's just got 10 in Italiano?

Tell your FIL to modernizzarsi un po'

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Camomilla · 10/06/2009 13:14

franca, he actually likes the home department of tkmaxx, but I scared him when I had a mountain of clothes on the pushchair (only bought a casual dress in the end though)

Gio, I was very good with DS in that I spoke italian to him 99% of times, DP spoke to him mainly in english but when DS started speaking he's also speak a bit of italian (he's probably learnt most of his italian that way, and some things are still referred to in italian by all). Although DS spoke nearly only in italian, he could understand english, and within weeks of going to nursery his english vocabulary multiplied and was quite popular too, so I wouldn't worry about it at all! and kids learn language a lot quicker than adults, so tell FIL to stop being a PITA. if anything, I'm struggling to get him to speak italian now, as "we're in English" , but getting better

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Rosa · 10/06/2009 13:16

Tell your FIL to go for a walk in his moon boots ( sorry but I will never forget that !!)
In dd1 schol there is 1 child who is 2.7 who refuses to talk - he has just started talking - but he sings along at school !!!
DD1 started at 2.6 and it was just after we had been in the Uk for 2 months so her English was the predominant - in fact when she started she chatted in English . ( I told the teachers to ask he how papa says a word if they couldn't understand) Now Italian is predominant and her phrases are far better in Italian - she gets the words out but in a mix up in English - I am totally not worried as I know she will pick up again this summer.
I saw lots of different levels speaking and capability wise ( nappies or no nappies, talking / playing). Tell your FIL that they don't tend to scoialise in groups until they are 3 + and it is unlikely that they will make ' specific ' friends at the materna - They will be happy to meet all school friends out of school in parks etc an it is only really from 4 onwards that children start to make special bonds ..I am speaking generally here .......

Franca auguri with the going blind - I just couldn't do it I would be ina panic if the place was full or we picked the wrong one and there was a nicer one down the road! DH should be gettinga key for the internet - his task so I can log in whilst at teh beach or in montagna ...Si spera.
The Chicco travel cot arrived ( is bloody heavy) I have opened it ok but I can't close it it is in a heap on my living room floor I have to close it as dh said leaved it closed incase we can't do it again !!!!!!!!!!!!

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