Upstairs neighbours

[starlover]

ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

We moved into this flat last August, lovely place, niec and quiet... couldn't be happier! ... a couple of months later our upstairs neighbours moved in.

They make SO much noise. They have had laminate flooring put in, and all I hear all day is BANG BANG BANG as they walk around.
This is broken intermittently by:
their washing machine,
their drilling (almost every day- their walls must be full of holes),
hammering,
loud tv,
even louder music.

Right now it sounds like they are dragging furniture across the floor.

We spoke to their landlady who said that she has already had several complaints about them, including the council because they keep illegally parking. They have a dog which they aren't allowed. It's a single lady who said she would be moving in with one child. There are now 4 children there. (in a 2 bed flat!)
The police have been out because of a noise disturbance.

WHY won't she kick them out????? The flats are all leasehold and we have seen our landladys leasehold agreement... does that mean that their landlady will have the same agreement?
She is breaking several aspects of this (pets, noise etc) by keeping her tenants in the flat...
so what can we do to get rid of them?????

[morningpaper]

Bloody hell I don't really know. Do you have a management group with the leasehold owner who could put pressure on her to meet the terms of her lease?

[starlover]

I'm not sure who the original lease is with.
They're mainly council flats, but some are privately owned, so would the council be the lease owner?

I suppose my own landlady would know about any management group...

[morningpaper]

Yes have a word with your landlady. It sounds as though they are DIY-crazy doesn't it? Sorry.

[LIZS]

Presumably your landlady pays a ground rent to whoever the freeholder is (possibly the council) and usually would need to permission (technically) from the freeholder to sublet. It is up to their landlady to warn and/ or issue notice if they are in breech of their tenancy agreement. She may just be waiting for the 6 months to expire then issue the statutory notice (2 months iirc) rather than cause trouble but by the sounds of the amount of work they are doing they plan to stay. Perhaps the freeholder could pressure her to do so if their behaviour is breaching the freeholder's lease with her.

[starlover]

hmm, some good advice. I will get onto my landlady this evening and see what she suggests.

I know that some of the noise is unpreventable, but it's just SO annoying! If they would just take their shoes off, or put some rugs down it wouldn't be so bad.
Unfortunately, as DP pointed out, a lot of the noise isn't THAT loud... just really, really irritating.
They are breaking the agreement on other matters though, so hopefully something can be done.

blah, i just wanted to whinge about them really! lol

[starlover]

batters.. we haven't heard any farting thank goodness, but we do hear them having (very loud) sex!

[starlover]

yeah you're right batters... i think that's what is happening with me... like, normally i would just ignore the little noises, but it's got so that every little thing they do makes me wanna scream.
It's not so bad for dp because he is out at work all day...
although he was pretty annoyed with the hammering on the floor at 1am the other morning :P