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Do You Write or Think? Mr Nietzsche's Assessment of Your Dilemma.

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onebatmotherofgoditschilly Mon 07-Jan-08 21:59:03

I had forgotten this:

"The literary woman, unsatisfied, agitated, desolate in heart and entrails, listening every minute with painful curiosity to the imperative which whispers from the depths of her organism "aut liberi aut libri [either children or books]."
—Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols

Ten years ago I would have turned the page with a sigh and a sneer.


Threadworm Wed 25-Feb-09 11:49:00

Iorek! It is at least 40 days too soon for a resurrection!

IorekByrnison Wed 25-Feb-09 11:45:26

bugger! wrong thread!

IorekByrnison Wed 25-Feb-09 11:44:04

Vezzie it was a very interesting thread about this comment - "The literary woman, unsatisfied, agitated, desolate in heart and entrails, listening every minute with painful curiosity to the imperative which whispers from the depths of her organism "aut liberi aut libri [either children or books]."

- which quickly degenerated into a discussion of how pubic topiary might be themed according to the facial hair of the great philosophers.

onebatmother Sat 19-Jan-08 14:38:39

Thready - absolutely! re JA. GH cannot be compared. But there is a definite cleverness, and the elements of JA which are sometimes the very best bits - the banter, the structures, the frippery - are distilled in GH and then used liberally. There is also a clear sexual subtext in GH which one has to search harder for in JA.


Have lovely days, both, I will be a bit irregular this w/e..

onebatmother Sat 19-Jan-08 14:33:01

Oh sorry, Swedes, how rude of me. Distracted.

These Old Shades is the first one I read. You have to read them with a vivid imagination, and you have to let yourself go a bit. Well a lot.

I'll wager it is not usual fare for either of you..

But when I have fallen into the Slough of Despond, it is Miss Heyer to whom I turn, not Mr Wittgenstein.

Actually, that was true 15 years ago. Currently I turn to Rioja.

Thready Sat 19-Jan-08 14:03:31

I'll second swedes question: which is the best GH to start with?

After all, Jane Austen is in one sense strictly Mills and Boon. It's just that she does it supremely unutterable brilliantly.

onebatmother Fri 18-Jan-08 23:10:45

no, actually totally fine in real terms, but some slight financial embarrassment on the horizon which is making me a little tense. boom-boom

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 23:09:11

btw - Have never read any GH. What slim volume would you recommend to commence a GH education?

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 23:07:16

AH OBM - Have you had a bad week? Why so?

onebatmother Fri 18-Jan-08 23:04:18

slight tense problem there.
Which is, in fact, the story of my freakin' week.

onebatmother Fri 18-Jan-08 23:03:36

Well she is. And she isn't.
That is very much a hideous modern bookjacket, yes, very much so.

Would it help if I told you that both AS Byatt AND Margaret Drabble were avowed fans, as is Mister Stephen Fry?

Threadworm Fri 18-Jan-08 22:51:50

Not swedes sister, I mean.

Threadworm Fri 18-Jan-08 22:51:06

I have heard of her, but always thought she was a bit like this. I heard something about her a while ago which contradicted this image, so perhaps I should check her out.

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 21:15:14

My sister laughed and laughed (she had to hang up the phone as couldn't speak) when I told her we were thinking (well not we, me really) of downsizing to get more free time. She thinks we already have major lazyitis. Which is sort of true.

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 21:11:47

OH gawd - and there was I getting all excited about having made a spooky new mumsnet friend.

onebatmother Fri 18-Jan-08 21:06:19

Now that was disconcerting, wasn't it?
Sorry, name-changed for the Georgette Heyer Thread.

I urge you to answer my ealrier q, darlings - have you even heard of GH?

LordPercivalGhosty Fri 18-Jan-08 21:03:07

OK Swedes, did it (feels nauseous with jealousy, about almost everything)

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 20:54:50

OBM & Threadie - I would be very grateful for your brains re my dilemma of the week. Any thoughts?

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 20:49:00


onebatmother Fri 18-Jan-08 20:46:48

Sharks are you two clever people
Exhausted swimmer, who would have been devoured were it not for rescue by dashing lifeguard Brad Wikipedia, is me.

Threadworm Fri 18-Jan-08 20:20:53

Swimming with sharks one bat? How so? Link?

onebatmother Fri 18-Jan-08 20:14:59

onebat retires, briefly, to nurse nervous exhaustion brought on by doomed attempt to swim with sharks

Threadworm Fri 18-Jan-08 16:41:46

'A French politician once wrote that it was a peculiarity of the French language that in it words occur in the order in which one thinks them' (L. Wittgenstein). Does that help at all?

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 14:28:47

Sorry. I have been neglecting philosophy in favour of trying to help my son master the art of French. Blind leading blind.

Swedes Fri 18-Jan-08 14:25:40

Anti-intellectualist seeks partner for basic and simple fun over a cappucino.

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