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Am I paying too much for nursery place?

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Clareada Thu 22-Nov-12 11:07:31

Hi Folks - Our son is 2 and goes to nursery 3 days a week from 9-5. The fees went up in April by £1 a day to £41 per day and today we've been informed that they're going up to £45 per day from January. £4 seems like a big increase to me, but the nursery have assured us, they are still competitive compared to other nurseries in the area. We live in the London borough of Southwark. Can anyone advise on how much they are paying so I can figure out whether to complain or not? I've tried to do some research but can't find any nurseries in the area who advertise their charges.
The nursery place includes 2 snacks and lunch by the way, but not nappies or wipes. We pay for 52 weeks of the year.

Emsmaman Wed 28-Nov-12 12:53:15

Seems cheap to me, we pay nearly double that for greater london

shartsi Wed 28-Nov-12 10:55:27

£48 a day in the London borough of Redbridge.

Xenia Wed 28-Nov-12 10:50:47

I was advising a nursery business and it did not seem untypical and they were making a loss! I have seen people on mumsnet writing about how to make a nursery pay. Like a private school most of what you take in goes out on wages. If you have a chain of them I suppose it might make a lot of profit but the state imposed ratios of child to staff probably also has a major impact on profit too.

BrawToken Tue 27-Nov-12 21:00:58

Mind you, It was £46 per day until my dd turned three smile

BrawToken Tue 27-Nov-12 20:59:40

£42.50 a day, Edinburgh

EnolaAlone Tue 27-Nov-12 20:58:01

I was paying £37.50 a day in Derbyshire last year, and it used to go up by about £2 a day every year.

sanam2010 Tue 27-Nov-12 20:39:11

Xenia, though I doubt they drive Bentleys myself, I know for a fact that our nursery owners - a couple who runs just this SW London nursery on fees of about £60 per day - are putting four children through Central London prep schools with their income - and they only have this nursery as a source of income. So clearly if well managed and run, it can provide good profit. I am happy to pay that though - it's also a very risky business for owners. They tend to have high upfront investment and also run a lot of risk - if ever there is a scandal / health or safety scare, they can be shut down and lose everything, so it's definitely not easy money.

Mandy21 Tue 27-Nov-12 20:26:12

Pearlywhites wow - thats unbelievably cheap shock

PearlyWhites Tue 27-Nov-12 19:25:06

I pay £32.50 8-6 including three meals and wipes. I live in the north west.

Xenia Sun 25-Nov-12 08:29:25

I doubt if the nursery owners are paying their staff the minimum wage the owners have Bentleys. They have to pay rent for the building, heat, light, business rates and all kinds of other costs.

Gooseysgirl Sun 25-Nov-12 08:25:22

We pay c. 1050 per month for a full time placement for DD who is almost 9 months, includes 3 meals and nappies but not wipes. We are in East London.

Forgot to say provides wipes, but not nappies or cream.

I pay £45 a day in Hampshire. Sounds very good price for London.

Xenia Fri 23-Nov-12 19:13:45

And if it means your children are cared for when they are a bit sick where a nursery would send them home it makes it more likely your career is secure as you are more reliable to the employer and if it's expensive for a few years so what if then you have 30 years of high earnings as plenty of women do. The year our childcare was more than one of our wages years ago (that baby is now 28 - years not months) feels a long time ago.

forevergreek Fri 23-Nov-12 18:55:06

Exactly if you have two children, as long as your nanny costs less than £800 gross a week it's cheaper ( based on £80 per child per day it is at local nurseries)

Most nannies here on £500 net a week ( around £630 gross depending on tax band). Even if you add £100 worth of children and nanny eating at home/ music classes/ swimming / toddler groups etc its still cheaper ( and more convinent)

Xenia Fri 23-Nov-12 14:55:06

Yes we had 3 children under 4 at one point nad a day nanny was cheaper than 3 nursery places would have been.

forevergreek Fri 23-Nov-12 13:58:35

£80 a day here. Hence why nannies are cheaper if you have 2 or more children

2cats2many Fri 23-Nov-12 13:55:46

I think that £80 a day is shocking. The owners of the nurseries must be driving round in bloody Bentlys, because I bet they aren't paying their staff more than the £45 a day places.

splashymcsplash Fri 23-Nov-12 12:56:45

That's sounds really cheap for London.

Around my area (middle of the road London area) nurseries are generally 75-80 per day. I'm really surprised you have it that cheap.

Mandy21 Fri 23-Nov-12 09:27:32

I pay £63 a day in the NW, and our fees go up once a year in January. We've just been informed they're going up by 2%. So even though I think your nursery sounds very reasonable, a 10% jump sounds rather steep.

MrsBungleBear Fri 23-Nov-12 09:08:18

I pay £41 a day in Nottingham. I would have thought London was more than £45 TBH. It does, though, sound like a steep rise in a short space of time.

sanam2010 Fri 23-Nov-12 09:05:44

Your nursery sounds very reasonably priced - they probably had to raise more bc they were comparatively too cheap up to now. In Fulham/Hammersmith most nurseries charge between £55 to £80 per day, so even if Southwark is a bit cheaper, I don't think it could be much less than what they charge you. If you're happy with the nursery otherwise there's probably nothing to complain about.

Emmie412 Fri 23-Nov-12 08:10:04

We pay £44 per day for Scallywags. It used to be £40 but they increased it in September as the rent had gone up. Still very reasonable. A new nursery close to Canada Water was £50 something. Across in Canary Wharf you are looking at £70 per day so I wouldn't complain.

Sarahplane Thu 22-Nov-12 20:33:32

We pay £50 a day (Edinburgh), they're open 8-6 and this includes 3 meals (if they're there early enough for breakfast) plus snacks and nappies and wipes. I think it's probably reasonable especially for London.

2cats2many Thu 22-Nov-12 20:09:08

That sounds about right. You'd be lucky to get it cheaper.

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