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I need to get hold of an out of print piece of music

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Rooners Mon 17-Mar-14 13:13:45

It's impossible to find so far. It's an arrangement of Orb and Sceptre by Walton, for piano.

It's for a wedding.

Only copy I have found is falling apart, and was on ebay for an extortionate amount which I actually paid in desperation but having found it's falling apart, I have asked to return it. (the seller won't lower the price due to the condition being totally crap - not sure why)

I don't want to copy the score before returning it as that would be dishonest and possibly breach copyright (unless copyright doesn't exist if something's out of print?)

If anyone can think of another way to get hold of this I'd be grateful.

Tried Foyles etc

Just a bit stuck.

MooncupGoddess Mon 17-Mar-14 13:16:08

"I don't want to copy the score before returning it as that would be dishonest and possibly breach copyright (unless copyright doesn't exist if something's out of print?)"

It is still in copyright - Walton only died in 1983 - but given that it's not in print any more, and you're not performing for profit, I wouldn't be too worried about this.

How annoying the eBay seller won't compromise on the price, though.

Rooners Mon 17-Mar-14 13:28:01

Oh that is reassuring. Yes I thought he had died fairly recently, poor chap. I don't want to be cheating the seller either though...I would feel I wanted to pay them something, if I did that.

£25 for an 8 page work seems so expensive. Maybe that's because it is out of print though.

I have emailed OUP to ask about permission and just in case a legal copy might still be obtainable.

Thank you for the reply.

scarfaceace Mon 17-Mar-14 14:07:04

What about the library? I know our local one can get hold of sheet music. Also, if they don't have a copy they can usually get one from another county (Inter Library Loan) or even the British Library. There may be a small fee.

Rooners Mon 17-Mar-14 14:13:22

That is a fantastic idea - thank you very much. I will ring them and ask.

schoolchoicesdrivingmecrazy Mon 17-Mar-14 14:15:51

The guildhall music library in the Barbican is run by a mumsnetter - they are bound to have a copy you can borrow.

Tbh why not keep the ebay copy and photocopy it only for the purposes of having a more stable copy to use in church. There is no breach of copyright there because you have bought a copy, are copying it simply to preserve the original for the purposes of performing it and will destroy the copy afterwards. That is perfectly fair use.

Rooners Mon 17-Mar-14 14:22:57

Oh really? I didn't know we had someone in such upper echelons smile

I would keep it but tbh it's the cost, I think it's outrageous though am leaning towards that if it doesn't become available elsewhere.

Thank you for all the help flowers

Rooners Mon 17-Mar-14 14:34:15

Update - they have a copy in a library near to us. smile

I think that might solve the problem, I can return this one and we can just borrow it, and probably copy it for personal use as long as the library says so? Or just keep it on renewal till after the wedding.

Thanks all - brilliant smile

schoolchoicesdrivingmecrazy Mon 17-Mar-14 16:49:13

Good! No you can't copy the library copy. Just keep renewing until you return.

Rooners Mon 17-Mar-14 16:52:21

Thank you...still not heard back from the OUP about it but that's Ok, my Dad was able to reserve the library copy online using his library card (I don't think I have one any more!) and they are sending it to the local library.

Bonzer job smile

Yes hopefully we can just keep renewing it. Thanks again for all the help and advice. I don't know where I'd be without MN sometimes.

Rooners Mon 17-Mar-14 16:53:08

Despite the fact I used to work in a library blush! (was only on short loan...)

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