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Stop the Abolition of DLA

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Glitterknickaz Sun 16-Jan-11 13:19:28

The government are proposing to get rid of DLA in favour of PIP. full consultation here

Riven started a fantastic thread in Chat with the very pertinent point that this applies to everyone, that every one of us could be just one step from disability themselves.

There is NOTHING in the media about this. These proposals could mean poverty for the disabled and their families in this country. It could leave some in residential care completely isolated from their families and support networks through the removal of the mobility component.

My family has already been hit three times through the NHS, education and aiming high, via the cuts, if they now remove the money from our pockets we are going to be in a heat or eat situation.

Please MNHQ do something, as many are oblivious to these proposals and what they will mean, including those who themselves already claim DLA.

atah Thu 20-Jan-11 12:00:51

full support from me

Mouseface Thu 20-Jan-11 12:05:04

Count me in. If we lose my or DS's DLA and CA, we'll be lost.

I'm so worried about this. For everyone that it will affect.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy Thu 20-Jan-11 12:11:45

the DLA website is a nightmare
BUT people can email


MmeLindt Thu 20-Jan-11 12:11:52

Am C&P Peachy's response to my question on the DLA reform here, as it is very important

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy Thu 20-Jan-11 12:00:19

Comments about reforms to DLA (even as simple as 'the current system has one of the lowest rates of fraud and makes an effective support system for a great many people: please leave it alone and certainly do not cut off 20% of people'- obv. your own opinion LOL) can be emailed to:

The form can be skipped: it is shite and clearly designed to stop people having a voice. IMO.

If you want to help people like Riven get the assistance they need, start by doing this

Rannaldini Thu 20-Jan-11 12:19:55

For those of us who reside in NI we are supposed to reply via:

We aren't supposed to comment via the normal channels even though this policy will be rolled out UK wide

Columbia999 Thu 20-Jan-11 12:28:05

Count me in. I wasn't disabled on June 1st 2010, but became so on the 2nd. Waiting for the outcome of my DLA application now my pay has been cut in half (but my bills haven't). Am not holding my breath....

Flisspaps Thu 20-Jan-11 12:30:47


Rannaldini Thu 20-Jan-11 12:33:34

Someone said a really decent thing on Twitter along the lines of

Why do we begin this process by taking money away from the poorest and the disabled when no one has asked me for a penny greater contribution?

It really made me think.
For most of us there is an ability to pay or contribute more in one form or another during this crisis.
But for some there is inescapable debt, poverty and the daily grind of living with and funding a disability. Why do we go to this group first for the shortfall?

Just sayin

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy Thu 20-Jan-11 12:53:21


It is becuase the most vulnerable groups are easiest to target

Many carers have depression; theya re exhausted; theya re powerless

Disabled people are often (clearly not always) vulnerable

There is nothing glam about being disabled and becuase everyone is at risk ostrich syndrome is common

And some people think oh they must be able to do soemthing / are lazy / chose this

Some people think you test for all disabilities and choose to keep your child- even if I thought this was valid (I don;t!) it's not true anyway.

Someone on MN once said if they were severely disabled they would simply get a job.


Who'd employ you if you needed to be hospitalised weekly, if your IQ was severely impaired, if you had zero attention, if you ahve behavioural issues and thumped people, if you could not do your job?

Espeically when atm there are 2.5 million others after your job!

And who'd employ your carer when they are exhausted, need to take time out for meetings all the time, sit edgy by the phone, can't find chidlcare?

Rannaldini Thu 20-Jan-11 13:01:37

I wasn't actually asking a question! thanks though grin

KalokiMallow Thu 20-Jan-11 13:06:09

"Someone on MN once said if they were severely disabled they would simply get a job."

Any thread on disabilities always ends up with comments about how someone knows someone who works despite being disabled therefore all disabled people should work. I think you are right about it being ostrich syndrome, it's too much to bear to imagine your life being turned on it's head by your own or a relatives disability. It's easier to pretend it only happens to other people and that there is some control over it (therefore it couldnt happen to you)

MmeLindt Thu 20-Jan-11 13:13:25

Someone on Twitter asked why MN doesn't set up a Respite Exchange board.

I presume in Riven's case, that this would not work due to the severity of her DD's health problems?

Glitterknickaz Thu 20-Jan-11 13:16:55

Thing is respite care is so very varied, I think Riven's DD needs quite specialist care ie tube feed etc more nursing based. My kids would need carers with specialist knowledge of ASD and its effects.

Glitterknickaz Thu 20-Jan-11 13:18:02

Anyway this is DLA. Without DLA as a 'passport' we would get no other financial help. We'd have no money and no way of earning it due to our caring commitments. Please help the campaign.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy Thu 20-Jan-11 13:19:15

I confirm that Mme

I ahve some nursing experience and similar but could not use the equipment

For us, someone would have to be trained in dealing with aggressive people. I could ahrdly open a MNer up to the possibility of aggression.

Rannaldini Thu 20-Jan-11 13:46:55

anyone seen this?
the numbers spouted by Osbourn are at best a fiction

Glitterknickaz Thu 20-Jan-11 13:49:46

forty per cent of people who are entitled to it also don't claim it....

MmeLindt Thu 20-Jan-11 14:04:29

I think that Osborne info was on MN. I am confused now where I have read what.

I have asked MN to lock the other thread and direct those who want to help over to this thread.

TotalChaos Thu 20-Jan-11 14:08:35

Yes, count me in.

MmeLindt Thu 20-Jan-11 14:18:04

New story in Guardian

mamsnet Thu 20-Jan-11 14:24:03

I am a very fortunate person. And reading MN I am reminded of this every day.

I don't know if this is a good place to do so but I would just like to say how much I admire all of you who live with disability in your families. You are an inspiration to society.

I will support this campaign in any way I can.

radiohelen Thu 20-Jan-11 14:25:42

I watched the Children's Minister (dunno her name - it was a bird though) saying that they wanted to move away from ringfencing money as it put limits on councils to use the money in the best way and meant they couldn't provide "joined-up" services. Then she said they were giving more money to councils to help disabled families.
They REALLY don't get it and they are clearly in a buck passing exercise. Central government will blame the local councils and say they are giving them more money. The local council will point to reduced government funding and say cuts have to come from somewhere. It's a perfect news circle for them where no-one takes responsibility.

MarioandLuigi Thu 20-Jan-11 14:34:48

Dont know if this is the place to put this, but the National Autistic Society sent me this link asking any parent or carer of a child with ASD to fill it in.


maxmissie Thu 20-Jan-11 14:35:53

Count me into this as well, have emailed a response to consultation on changes to DLA and will be emailing my MP as well.

Don't understand the issues in great detail and don't have a disabled child but from spending two weeks in hospital with my ds was enough to make me realise that care and support for children and their families is severely lacking under the current system let alone under a new one.

Agree with radiohelen it's always someone else's fault in these type of situations and councils and the government will always try and pass the buck.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy Thu 20-Jan-11 14:37:39

Mario it's the perfect place.

I annot reiterate how important teh DLA email thing is. Demand on respite services will soar if people have less money and mroe people will face care for tehir children or homelessness.

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