Best pram for public transport with twins?(34 Posts)
We just found out we're having twins, and I'm freaking out about how we'll get around! We don't have a car and aren't keen to get one, so I'm wondering what the best pram would be for carting twins around the Kingston/Richmond area in SW London. I've been eyeing the Bugaboo Donkey since I like the side-along style and versatility of the seats, but will it be a nightmare for public transport and shopping? Plus, it seems much thinner than other side-by-side models. The icandy Peach looked nice, but I'm not sure about the style of seating, and it seems like a hassle that the carrycots don't fold down... but then, maybe it's worth putting up with if it's easier to get around?
What is your experience with twin prams on public transport? I see mums with prams on buses all the time around here, but don't know if it will be worse with twins... It's not like I'll be able to easily collapse anything with 2 infants!
Recommendations would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the welcome! I'm due on 5th so just a few days behind you. I love carbs too and for the first three months I just ate what I could stomach which wasn't much and every few days I would go off that and had to find something else, whether it was dry cornflakes, soup (I lived off the same soup for about 2 weeks!) or a particular panini from a local cafe (I've had that about 4 times). I've finally started cooking proper meals again on most days.
I had been thinking about a buggy for jogging but it looks as if I will be spending the first 2-3 months so shattered, zonked and some threads say you shouldn't jog with newborns so I decided it might be better to get a buggy that I can walk with in the park and which I can lift easily (and I want to be able to see both of them properly) then once they are over 3 months I will decide if there's any point in getting a running buggy off ebay or not.
I've also been looking online and not in the shops so I am hoping it will all work out once I've tried a few for real. I wonder if they are all pretty much the same!
Welcome the the thread! I'm due on the 2nd Sept but like you will likely have them in August. My sickness has subsided but I still feel a bit yucky, it's so difficult to eat healthily though. I love carbs! Yes when I feel we'll I think it's all over. It's nice to have someone to feel paranoid with!
The buggy thing is a big conundrum what is one persons perfect combination is another's nightmare.
Linguaphile, Cornwall - I'm new on here and glad I found this thread. My twins due date is September so they will be induced by mid-late August. We have a car but I would like to be able to get the bus or train too sometimes so which buggy to get is my current project. This is all so helpful. I'll be 16 wks on thursday and I don't have the 20 week scan appointment through yet. I'm a bit of a worrier too - I'm still being sick most days and when I am I feel awful but when I'm not I worry that something has gone wrong. Crazy brain!
Hi mine are non-id, I'm not in for a scan just a mw appt. I really hope she listens to the HBs. My next scan is at 20wks and it cannot come soon enough. I'm so worried something is wrong (I am a born worrier esp after multiple losses). After 20wks thy scan every four weeks.
Yes I have spotted the city select but we will wait unil after the 20wk scan to look at any real life buggies. It would break my heart to do any actual RL decisions on nice things such as cots and buggies then to have go back to square one again.
I have been searching the Internet on the car seat question. As far as I can tell it is the law for private cars and private hire taxis. However, London black cabs are deemed as public transport like trains and buses hence do not require car seats. They are designed to be accessible for wheelchairs and push chairs so long as you park them safely inside with the brake on. I plan to contact the London taxi association to get a definite answer. The other option is to organise a private hire which provides car seats to collect from hospital. We have looked into car seats and highly unlikely to get a 0 group one (the one that as a carry handle). Given the we use a car so rarely we are more likely to get the next group up which works rear facing for babies and forward facing for when they are above a certain weight. We are much more likely to get use out of ths.
Cornwall, have you looked at the city select instead? It's the baby jogger's tandem version with stadium seating, and the seats look pretty versatile. Saw it the other day and thought it looked pretty good because both kids have a view. My DH said the same thing about the iCandy as yours when he saw it - says the babies won't care if they're stuck in the bottom seat as they'll be to little to care. Dunno... it could always be good to visit the shop and see them in person with your DH.
Good luck with your scan! Assuming your set is monochorionic if you're getting the 16 week? Maybe you'll get to find out the sexes! They aren't bringing me in again until 21 weeks because we've got the di- kind, which seems like ages away.
I did ask about the carseats, and in addition to looking at me like I was a total chav for asking, she told me in no uncertain terms that it is the law. Sad.
Linguaphile hope you are doing well. I too will ask the mw about the leaving hospital policy and car seats, I have my 16 wk appt this week and very scared!
Well, we were at a bus stop yesterday and DH who has never ever taken any interest in any bit of baby kit spotted an iCandy Peach Blossom 2 go past. He immediately said "that's what we need!" Rats! I thought there goes my campaign to have a purple BJCM.
Anyway, it led to us having our first proper talk about a buggy and how I would prefer a side by side. However we got the tape measure out and as Rowans said some Victorian terraces are not blessed with wide hallways. Our front door is 1m wide and this goes on for a few steps, at the bottom of the stairs it narrows to 75cm and then continues to a 70m wide door to the kitchen. If I got the BJCM I would not be able to take it beyond beyond the staircase. If I've got sleeping kids they are going to have to stay in the hallway until they wake and if I have come back with shopping I am going to have to ferry it up and down the hallway. We have decided that we just need to get home and get ourselves into the kitchen to unload children, dog and shopping otherwise a lot will happen in one of the most limited areas of the house! We are now considering the MB Duet (but I hear it is bulky) or a tandem buggy. Back to the drawing board then!
Hi, im going for the Jane Twone for my twins. I think the bug looks great but live in a victorian terraced house with a fairly long and very narrow hallway! I tried out many of those suggested here but eventually decided on the twone. The carrycots are also carseats, and although like yourself, we dont actually have a car, there are ties when we will need for grandparents etc this really solved a problem for us. The only real compromise is the lack of basket space, but i keep feeling like with twin prams there just always seems to be a compromise somewhere!
Hi Cornwall! Yeah, we've been wondering that as well about car seats. Seems such a waste of money and (more importantly!) space. Will a black cab be allowed?? That would be amazing... I'm going in for my 13 week scan tomorrow, so can ask the midwife about options for leaving. We did also think that we might be able to just borrow some for the ride home since we've got so many friends with babies.
The BJCM is probably my next choice--looks really good!
Sorry mean't to also say thank you for all your suggestions ladies. It has certainly helped me build a long list!
Hi Linguaphile glad you are a step closer to choosing. I agree that you need lightweight options given that you don't live on the first floor. I have not been brave enough to go to a shop yet and keep my research very virtual. Doubt we will do much until after the 20 wk scan anyway. I am just too nervous of bad news (I don't have a good track record with pg!). I still have my heart set on a BJCM ESP after meeting a friend with a single one today but its has also dawned on me how big a double one will be! I am very tempted by the MB duet too, nice and narrow which is a factor for my hallway which is 74 cm at the narrowest point.
Can I ask what you are going to do about a car seat? It's only something I can ask mainly public transport people! We are members of a car club which we only use about four/five times per year and hire a car when we go away for two weekends a year. We were planning to purchase a fixed car seat to use from birth after a few mths given that we won't be going anywhere in the near future. However my friend said that the hospital will not allow us to leave without a car seat. We were planning on bringing the buggy into hospital and getting into a black cab. Is this okay? How are you planning to get home? We have no relatives near us to collect us.
Wow, sorry I haven't responded sooner! I actually didn't think many people would reply (newbie here)... This is great! Cornwall, I'm due in September but will probably have them in August, so it sounds like we're in similar places with pregnancy. After reading and doing some research, I'm leaning a bit toward the bugaboo, just because when I saw it in John Lewis it was so lightweight and easy to push around! They have most twin models (City Select, Mountain Duo, Uppababy, iCandy, etc) at the Kingston branch, so it was good to look and see everything in person. We live up a flight of stairs, so lightweight is key for me. I think it would be a real struggle getting a heavy buggy upstairs after being out! Also, when I looked at the iCandy, the basket underneath didn't seem easily accessible.
I still really like the twin model as opposed to tandem, even though it's wider, so the bugaboo is good as it's one of the thinnest twins on the market. Last and final selling point is that it seems dead useful in mono mode with that basket for shopping paraphanelia. I can see myself strapping on one baby and just using the mono mode when I'm out on transport.
I dunno, though. So many choices! More opinions welcome!
and i should add.... it is very light to push. easy to do so with one hand (handy if carrying one baby...) basket underneath not huge. seats dont face you (annoying i think)...but baby carry cots do.
i am like you cornwall with the bugs. i find bugaboo users tend to mill about in groups. i have often wondered what the collective noun lots of bugaboo's would be...
we have he mb duet and live in central london. my twins are 18 months old now and have used this since birth. it is as wide as a standard wheelchair which means that it fits through most doors (ie dont have to open two doors to get in shops etc)... it also fits in the back of a black cab. i dont use the tube, but we use the bus every day. have to get on the back doors. fits with one other single buggy. bus drivers can be funny sometimes... but not always. the donkey is wider so harder to get through some doors. the bjcm is wider too- but folds flatter so better if you need to collapse often (we dont...) hth
I don't have twins, but did need a twin pram for two dc 18 months apart - we don't have a car and live in SW London. We went for the Mountain Buggy Duet. It is lighter then the Bugaboo Donkey I think? It is narrow and goes down the aisle of some double and single deckers if you get on at the front, but some have an annoying pole so you need to get on in the middle - you get to know which routes have which kind of bus! I've only used the tube where I could use lifts, but my husband is happy to hold it on escalators. It feels very light to push when walking, but bumping up lots of stairs is a struggle - maybe anything would be!
so happy you are finally getting your family Cornwall the donkey is really new, only launched lat year I think, agree it looks great though!
Thank you I'll add those to the list for when we get to have a look at the real thing.
The thing I don't like about the Phil and Ted's is that the child in the lower seat ends up with their feet in the shopping basket (or at least that is what it looks like to me!).
The bugaboo is an interesting suggestion, funny that no-one has offered that one at all up to now in the pushchair thread whenever people ask for twin options. I must say that I have a psychological barrier with bugs. They hit the UK as we were TTC and after 7yrs TTC with multiple losses and cycles of IVF mums pushing bugaboos around me represent some very dark years of my married life!
I would go for a Phil & Ted Promenade. Its gorgeous for twins and babies can lay flat. It's nice and small too.
I would go for a Phil & Ted Promenade. Its gorgeous for twins and babies can lay flat. It's nice and small too.
I would defintiley go for the bugaboo donkey. It is soooooo easy to push (literally you could push it with 1 finger!), you've got the option of the way you want your twins to face, carrycots and carseats can be easily used with it. I have a friend who works with me and her twins are now 5 months. She takes the bus for a 20 min journey with both of her twins in the bugaboo to her Mums and then off to work, and the. Picks them up and takes them home on the train so she has no problem using the bugaboo on either. She has said that obviously the train has no steps to get up and down on it so that would be easier! Another great thing about the bugaboo donkey is that is can be easily switched from mono to duo so if 1 twin is acting up or wants to be held, put them in a front carrier/sling and have the other in the stroller!
I also have an icandy peach for my twins, they are 15 mo now and I think it will last them a long while yet. I and our nanny use it to get on public transport all the time - on Friday I got two buses to and from a playgroup and then a train to and from Clapham Junction (I'm also from Richmond) to meet a friend. And I am 5ft 1 and pretty weedy!
I kept the girls in the I candy until they were just over 2, I found it light and really easy to push and manoeuvre. I do think the BJCS looks like a good option though.
Thank you, I have posted on the pushchair thread and getting similar replies but not many people seem to use public transport as much as I do. I think I would find the icandy too heavy and bulky and I really want something that lasts and not that we get rid off after the first year.
I live in central London and use the Baby Jogger City Select for my twins, and use it on buses as well as black cabs. The twins are now just over 2 years old and the BJCS has enough space for them, the iCandy twin one was discarded by some of my twin mum friends once their twins were over a year old. Whatever pram you use, maybe see if you can use it in both buses and black cabs? Could be a bit limiting not to ever be able to catch a cab?
Cornwall, I loved my I candy peach, best purchase I made. I can't drive so have spent the last 2 years on buses with it. I am 5ft6 x
If you post in the pushchair section there are some very knowledgeable ladies who have tried every buggy under the sun and will be able to advice you!
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