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Early scan showed no heartbeat and small for dates - what hope is there?

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asquashandasqueeeze Fri 15-Jan-10 13:08:39


I had a scan yesterday at what I thought to be 8 weeks, and was found (with an internal scan) to be only 6 weeks. No heartbeat could be found. I have to go back in 10 days to see if there is a heartbeat. Has anyone had a positive outcome from this?

I have worked out that I could have conceived on those dates (possibly).

I suppose what I am saying is, I don't think there is any hope, but I can't stop feeling slightly hopeful. I don't really want to feel hopeful as I know there is (in reality) little chance of there being a positive outcome.

Allthe8s Fri 15-Jan-10 13:21:06

hi asquashandasqueeze

I can't really give you any positive experienced feedback on this but there is always hope and if you are only just 6 weeks it may just be too early yet....

I wish you luck x

CMOTdibbler Fri 15-Jan-10 13:23:44

When did you get a positive test ?

As you know already, it's not likely to end up being good news as even at 6 weeks there should be a heartbeat on an internal scan

So sorry that you are going through this

asquashandasqueeeze Fri 15-Jan-10 13:33:29

I only did the test just before new year's eve.

Logically I know there isn't any hope, which I why I don't really want to feel hope iyswim. I want to be able to deal with this and move on, but am in limbo as I have to wait until the next scan.

Malotkins Fri 15-Jan-10 15:15:45


I'm sorry you are having to go through this. I was in a similar situation over Christmas and the week between scans was torture. I hope everything works out for you.

Hannah x

sh77 Fri 15-Jan-10 15:23:01


I was exactly in the same situation in Nov. I was 9 weeks when light spotting bage and scan showed baby measuring 5-6 with no HB. I was certain of my dates. The 10 day wait was torture and so I had my HCG tested a couple of days after 1st scan, which showed it was going down and so MC was confirmed for me before the 2nd scan.


Dozer Sun 17-Jan-10 15:30:40

Sorry you are going through this, has happened to me and it is stressful. Wasn't good news for me, began to miscarry naturally before the second scan (so at least I knew the outcome). Take care.

SmileyMylee Mon 18-Jan-10 15:15:55

I am in the same situation. I had a scan this morning (9 weeks) and the baby was showing 6 weeks and no heartbeat. I desparately want to hear someone come on and say this happened to them but it turned out fine in the end, even though I know this isn't going to happen.

I just feel so cheated of my gorgeous little baby and don't know what to do for the best.

My kids are on their way home from school and I don't know how I will face them.

Goodluckbear Mon 18-Jan-10 16:35:06

Hey asquashandasqueeze and SmileyMylee - how are you guys doing today? I know the wait is horrendous, so just wanted to say thinking of you. Sorry I don't have anything useful to say!!

Electronic hugs and support....


SmileyMylee Mon 18-Jan-10 19:00:51

Have been booked in for an ERPC on Friday, but they say they won't do another scan unless I've had bleeding. I'm just in such a state in case they've got it wrong and I go in for an ERPC. I want to be 1000% certain that there is no hope.

I'm also panicking about starting to bleed heavily whilst with the children. I don't think I could hold it together in front of them and I don't want to frighten them. But I don't want to keep my DH off work just in case.

Thanks for your support - it's impossible to talk about these things in RL. This forum is a real life line at times like this.

shinysideup Tue 19-Jan-10 10:24:37

I'm currently in a similar situation. Had some very light spotting at 5-6 weeks so went for early scan at 6+3. Could see sac and yolk but said too small to see anything else. Went back today at 7+4 and again could see sac and yolk and possibly shadow of tiny something that could be baby but too small still. Also sac is irregular shape which apparently could mean it is starting to break down. Haven't had any further bleeding. I'm absolutely sure of my dates, got early positive pregnancy test as well.
Really don't know what to think. Realistically I know there is very little chance of a happy ending but unrealistically kind of feel I shouldn't give up yet. I just don't know how I'm going to function for the next 9 days until the next scan. I can't think of anything else. I think I have to prepare for the worst.
Sorry to hear others are in the same boat,but you're right Smiley, this forum is invaluable.

SmileyMylee Tue 19-Jan-10 12:42:19

Hi Shiny, sorry you're in a similar situation. I've spent this morning arguing with the doctor for a repeat scan next week. I don't think there'll be any different news but I know I will always feel guilty if I haven't done everything in my power to be 100% certain.

I am preparing for the worst, but there is still a little bit of me with some hope. The next week will be hell.

asquashandasqueeeze Tue 19-Jan-10 12:55:58

God it's a horrible situation isn't it? I had my first scan last Thursday and got a repeat scan next Monday. I can't wait that long though so have booked a private scan on Friday. It is being one of the worst 8 days of my life so far though.

I can't concentrate at all at work, and am dreading that I am going to gush blood at any time.

I really wish I could make that bit of hope disappear as I know that I am going to be let down.

Plus I have had pretty bad morning sickness this week too - I hate the way my body is playing tricks on me. (I have also had some bleeding but only a tiny bit, but enough to know that everything isn't right).

sorry you're both going through this Shiny and Smiley, it's absolutely hideous I think.

xkatyx Tue 19-Jan-10 15:45:22

Hi everyone,

I hope this may help a little.

My sister was 6 week's pregnant with her baby and had bleeding .. went for an internal scan and couldn't find anything etc and had to go back and there WAS a heart beat and he is a happy healthy 4 years old.

My thoughts are with you all and hope it is a happy ending, i can't imagine what you must be going through.


SmileyMylee Tue 19-Jan-10 19:05:11

xkatyx, I really hope I have the same outcome. Your story shows that I was really right to push for the second scan. If I had read this after having an ERPC today, I would always have wondered if I did enough for my little one. There may not be a difference in outcome, but I couldn't have coped with the tiny, tiny possibility that my baby may have died because I didn't push for a second scan.

Bella32 Tue 19-Jan-10 19:11:50

I had spotting at 6 weeks - early scan showed no heartbeat. Went back 10 days later for 2nd scan and now have healthy 7 yo child.

Very best of luck all x

xkatyx Wed 20-Jan-10 16:35:10

I have heard many of times about this happening, that woman are told there baby has died and for some reasson or another they find out the baby hasn't!! actually i read in a magazine not long ago about a woman told she had lost her baby, so she was going for ERPC and had it done, weeks later she wasn't feeling well still so went for a check up and found a 12 week healthy baby still growing.

I really hope that you have a happy outcome, i sometimes think hospitals can't be trusted that much anymore you need to push for things so good luck and i will keep my fingers and toes crosses for you :-)


shinysideup Fri 22-Jan-10 13:50:31

Thinking of you today, asquashandasqueeze. Have you had your scan yet?

How about you smiley, have you had another scan yet?

My next scan is on Thursday but I'm going up the wall here. Was beginning to hold things together until the midwife called to change my booking in appointment and I lost it again. I'm thinking about booking a private scan so I can be sure of what's happening.

Thinking of you all

asquashandasqueeeze Fri 22-Jan-10 15:12:51

my private scan was cancelled due to the doctor having a death in the family, but I still have my nhs one booked for Monday, so will have to go there again.

Not looking forward to the weekend waiting again. Have had some more bleeding, and am spending the time paranoid at work thinking I'm going to gush at any time.

it's horrible waiting - sorry you have to wait until Thursday shiny, I am so distracted all the time, next to useless at work and at home really sad

How are you smiley?

SmileyMylee Fri 22-Jan-10 17:56:19

Still waiting. My second scan is due on Monday and ERPC booked for Tuesday. I'm not holding out much hope as although there's no bleeding all my pregnancy symptoms have gone - no nausea and breasts no longer feel like footballs.

Feel a lot better in myself today though. I can talk about it without breaking down and everyone is being so wonderful. I don't know how those of you who are having to go to work are coping with this.

Met my DH for lunch today and I think he is still really struggling with this. He keeps things bottled in and is trying to keep strong for me. He won't allow himself to break down until it's all over and he knows I'm okay.

kissmummy Fri 22-Jan-10 22:07:22

asquash really sorry to hear you're going through this. it is a form of torture. all i can say is that once you know for sure what the situation is, it becomes easier to deal with. in my lengthy experience, the uncertainty is definitely worse than everything except the moment they tell you it's failed, and the first few hours after you get the bad news. It then gets better. A bit better, at any rate.

asquashandasqueeeze Mon 25-Jan-10 16:48:03

hi smiley - how did today go?

I am still in limbo, as they said that althhough they are 95% sure I will have a miscarriage, they can't be sure that I will and have to wait another week as the heartbeat may appear in that week. hmm

it is very frustrating now.

Hyze Mon 25-Jan-10 17:04:11

I'm really sorry this is happening. I'm wishing you all lots of luck and hugs.

MerryMagpie Mon 25-Jan-10 20:24:52

Hi ladies

I am going through a really similar situation. 3 weeks ago I had some bleeding and was booked in at the epau for a scan (should have been 7 weeks according to original dates) a week later, they could see a sac and a yolk but nothing else. Went for a return scan on Thurs last week thinking I would know conclusively but although the sac had grown a bit and they could see a fetal pole still inconclusive. Now I have to wait til next tues to see what will happen next It is the worst not knowing. I feel that I am totally in limbo. To make it worse I am paranoid that I will start to bleed at work and today when I wiped there was a small trace of blood.
Hope all is going better for others on the thread

asquashandasqueeeze Mon 25-Jan-10 20:30:57

you're in the same position as me merrymagpie - I had read lots of mn threads and hadn't seen anyone else who had to go for 3 scans! it's awful isn't it? - apparently there's a protocol they have to follow, and wait until the foetus/sac is a certain size and then look for a heartbeat.

I am also paranoid about bleeding at work = I asked the doctor and she said I would get some warning and not just gush all over the floor though (which is a bit of a relief!).

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