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ScaryHairy Tue 08-Apr-08 21:47:32

I was diagnosed with an ectopic last week, and given the jab (3 of them - ouch) on Thursday.

I have had some twinges and tiredness, which I understand to be normal, but am wondering whether I should be bleeding too.

When I last spoke to the EPAU they asked whether I was bleeding yet, and as I am not I am now wondering whether I should be. Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks

Julezboo Tue 08-Apr-08 21:53:49

Ive got no experience but I assume you would be? Could take its time though, I once waited 3 weeks to mc naturally, but that wasnt ectopic

I hope its over for you soon

ScaryHairy Tue 08-Apr-08 21:55:10

Thanks Julez, me too. I just want it finished so I can get back to normal now...

Julezboo Tue 08-Apr-08 22:15:40

know the feeling, I had my ERPC last monday, was 14 weeks, they told me at 10 weeks it was molar. I then got a womb infection, now still bleeding heavy and in pain. And face blood tests every 2 weeks for the next 6 weeks drags on and on...

AitchTwoOh Tue 08-Apr-08 22:19:42

oh i'm so sorry Scary, it's SUCH a disappointment. i had the metho, i think i started bleeding within a week. it was (apparently, i've not had one) not unlike a miscarriage, because your womb will obviously have been waiting for the baby to implant so a lining will have built up.
i've got to be honest, it was really very painful when the bleeding started, but i don't think that's the same for everyone. i hope it starts soon for you, i do understand the urge to get things back to some sort of normality. sad

AitchTwoOh Tue 08-Apr-08 22:20:07

very sorry to hear about your pregnancy too, julez. sad

justjules Tue 08-Apr-08 22:25:27

hi scary,

i am sorry to hear about your pg sad

i had methotraxate too with pg no2,

it was ok, i felt a bit itchy afterwards (very odd) but no where near what i expected as side effects,

i was sick once, some people are quite sick afterwards,

my hcg levels dropped slowly but it did work after weeks of hormone levels up and down (mine was a preg of unknown location)

justjules Tue 08-Apr-08 22:28:26

soz that message was not very clear,

i had already blead with the pg but my levels were still high,

i had 2 jabs (at the same time) and started to bleed more a few days later,

it was my skin that was itchy, it was like tiny spiders running all over my body (odd odd feeling)

it took about 3 weeks in total to get a zero hcg reading,

hth

ScaryHairy Tue 08-Apr-08 22:41:45

Hm, I don't think my womb lining is all that thick - at the last scan it was 6mm, so hopefully if I bleed it won't be too heavy.

It's very wierd that I had no pain before the diagnosis (just knew something was wrong) and lots of twinges afterwards. I suspect that the pregnancy may be coming away from the tube, which would be fine if it speeds things along.

You're right Aitch, it is the disappointment that is upsetting. Notwithstanding that something felt wrong, I was still shocked when they told me the news. Really I just want to get on and try for another.

You have my sympathy re the blood tests Julez. I've had 4 already and have god knows how many more to follow - my left arm is black and blue (and green).

Jules - how high was your HCG before the jabs? Am just wondering how quickly levels can fall. The itchy thing sounds wierd and I'm glad to have missed out on that...

justjules Tue 08-Apr-08 22:48:34

they were around the 500/600 mark,

i had already had a m/c (or so they said) but the levels refused to go down below the 500ish mark,

they said there was some retained product (trophoblastic sp?) cells left over that had started to multiply,

i had the methotrexate after a few weeks of constant blood tests,

i think i was 5 weeks pg when i started bleeding, about 7 weeks when they realised it was not going down properly, about 9 weeks when i had the jabs and about 12 weeks when i finally got a negative test again,

not the best time of my life, i was never so happy to get a BFN sad

ScaryHairy Tue 08-Apr-08 22:50:59

It's odd isn't it? I am still charting in the hope that one morning I will get a nice low temp.

My levels are a bit higher (around 2100 at last check), but I guess it might fall quite suddenly if the pregnancy has disconnected from the tube. It's such a strange thing to hope for, though.

hunnimummy Mon 14-Jul-08 08:57:02

hi all...

just had an ectopic... totaly distraught... can any1 help???

BelindaB Mon 14-Jul-08 09:41:48

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hunnimummy Mon 14-Jul-08 11:34:12

hi Belinda..

sorry to hear about your news too.. its all so emotional and today its really hit home and just feel so empty inside. its hard i think cos it had a beating heart...it was alive but had to be taken away. lets just get through another day hey xxxxx

wilbur Mon 14-Jul-08 11:41:36

So sorry to hear of your losses, scaryh and hunnimum. It's a sad time. I had an ectopic pregnancy prior to having ds2 - I did bleed heavily for a while, but then I was 11 weeks along, and so had obviously built up quite a lining. I didn't have methotrexate so I don't know if that affects things.

The ectopic did knock me for 6 for some time - felt it was my fault as I had taken the MAP due to broken condom and dd being only 8 months old at the time, so all the emptiness felt extra awful. I did recover though, and depsite losing a fallopian tube I went on to have ds2 reasonably easily. They gave me an early dating scan when I conceived him to put everyone's minds at rest that he was in the right place. HTH. Take care.

BelindaB Mon 14-Jul-08 12:28:11

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hunnimummy Mon 14-Jul-08 13:29:31

thanx and wilbur/
just so scare it will happen again as i only have 1 tube and that is further damamged now than it was before. i dont know when i will have a next period or when i will ovulate... i was so in tune with my body and i just feel so lost now. soz but i dont know what map.dd2 etc stand for-new to this. doc did say that i would be monitored very closely next time round-should there be one.it all so sad isnt it... just goes to show none of us are alone
xxx

wilbur Mon 14-Jul-08 18:12:31

MAP = morning after pill. I can understand you being scared - it is scary. Let your body settle down a bit, it may take a while, but you will get in tune with it again. Take care.

dawn37 Sun 07-Sep-08 11:53:30

just wanted to tell my story as I'm not sure if I did the right thing? Found out I was pregnant really early on, not sure of dates as cycles were 34 days on 3 months of clomid. I had a negative test on 8th aug then a positive test on 15th aug. I started bleeding on 19th & gp said I could wait it out or go to hospital for blood tests, I went to hospital where they did hcg levels=304, went back 2 days later =236, so assumed the worst, they scanned the next day but could see nothing as too early, I repeated hcg levels every 48 hours, they went up =376, 440, 535, hospital told me it wasnt viable & offered me methotrexate, which I couldnt bring myself to do without proof, so I aid could I wait til following week, the next hcg was 525, so they said I was probably miscarrying naturally, 3 days later it was 691, then 824 then on friday it was 891. the consultant called me back in & told me he was sure it was ectopic even though Ive had 3 scans which show nothing & I think I am only 5 weeks. Basically I was pressured to have the injection as they did not want the responsibility of a possible rupture even though I have no pain & my bleeding had stopped after a few days. So 2 days ago I had the injection,, I could not stop crying as my instincts feel I was i of the 20% that wasnt ectopic, so now I wait for more blood tests tomorrow & Thurs, We really want to try again, but now I'm dreading my levels wont do as they are expected & I will need another injection..Am trying to move on & forget it but its so hard after visiting the hospital every other day

MrsHappy Mon 08-Sep-08 13:48:12

Oh Sweetie, I do know how you feel.
My ectopic was spotted in my tube on the scan, but that is very unusual - normally they don't find them on the scan. And even with all of that evidence when I was tired or hormonal I still managed to convince myself that I had mistakenly terminated a viable pregnancy.

I am no expert, but from your HCG levels it does sound like your pregnancy was not viable.

I know that you're scared the methotrexate won't work but it does work in 90% of cases. The overwhelming odds are that it will work for you. You then have to wait for 3 months until you can try again which sounds a long time but it does pass quickly.

You might get some helpful advice from the ectopic pregnancy trust - the mods over there know a huge amount about ectopics and might be able to put your mind at rest.

Take care

dawn37 Tue 23-Sep-08 08:33:30

Thanks, I'm pleased to say my levels have been dropping by approx 100 every 48hours but last Thurs they were 360 & yesterday had gone to 95 so they had started decreasing by half, & finally I think its coming to an end. Does anyone know if you're supposed to pass any clots at all (sorry couldnt think how else to put it) as I have not & am worrried if it was in the tubes it may be blocked

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