2nd consecutive miscarriage

[Mrsc301]

Hi,
I've recently suffered my 2nd consecutive miscarriage. The first was at 10 weeks and very traumatic, the most recent was at 5 weeks. I'm feeling very low and upset. My husband is more upset than he's letting on and is refusing to talk about it. I can't understand why this keeps happening, and I just feel so bleak for the future and trying again. Can anyone give any advice? My Dr was very unsympathetic and refused to refer me to a gynaecologist until I lose a 3rd baby. I'm 36, don't smoke or drink and eat healthily. I've also been taking folic acid for the past 6 months. Has anyone had a similar experience and gone on to have a successful pregnancy?
Thank you xxx

[Misssmoo]

I had a chemical in Nov and have just had a mmc resulting in a d and c...I have two kids but have not ttc again yet as still to nearly. ...I feel terrified to be honest I don't think I'd cope to be honest..I also think like that I'm healthy and there's people out there taking all sorts and their baby's are fine life is shit at times xx

[Mrsc301]

Thank you for your reply. I am sorry for your losses. You're right, it's really not fair xxx

[mycatloveslego]

I had 2 MMC, the first discovered at the 12 week scan, then a year of ttc, then a second discovered on an early reassurance scan.
I was 38 and told I would not be investigated until I had a third loss. I felt that time was running out and I'd never be a mum again.
However, I am currently 40+1 pregnant and conceived the cycle after the second mmc. It's been an anxious pregnancy for me, and I'll be so glad when it's over.
Don't give up hope, mc's are so common and it's highly likely your next pregnancy will be a success. X

[Misssmoo]

Mycat I bet it has been anxious..that's what I'm so scared of I'll be a wreck it's absolutely awful the thought of this again..so happy your baby's nearly here enjoy every minute xxx

[Mrsc301]

Mycat - Congratulations to you and thank you for giving me hope 😊 xxx

[Spindelina]

MMC at 13 weeks in May 16, then MC at 6 weeks in Aug 16. Currently 27 weeks pg. Won't say it hasn't been nerve wracking, but it has all been fine. I'm 38.

Two in a row is more likely to be bad luck than anything sinister.

[mycatloveslego]

My local EPAU were very supportive in the early stages, they offered me 2 weekly reassurance scans, and told me I could contact them whenever I was worried. It helped immensely in the early days, then once you've got to 12 weeks the risk of mc drops to 1%.
Mrsc and Misss at least you know you can get pregnant, so chances are if you keep trying you'll get your rainbow babies. X

[Misssmoo]

I was 12+2 when I found out my baby had died at 8 weeks in waited a but more to miscarry naturally but was not happening that's why I opted for d and c..I had no bleeding afterwards. I have started bleeding today and am not sure if it's a period I have done a test which is negative and have not dtd since miscarriage hoping my bidy is back to normal x

[gameofchance]

I'm so sorry. It's really difficult to deal with and IMO not enough support is given to those who experience miscarriages. Be kind to yourself and to DH and remember everyone deals with grief differently. but if it's any consolation I do know lots of people who have gone on to have babies following recurrent miscarriage. Good luck and don't give up hope. 36 is not old - there is lots of time ( although you might not think so at the moment)

[Bebraveagain]

Have you had thyroid checks? Pregnancy ranges are lower than normalnranges according to NICE guidelines and not all GPs seen to know this.

[Mrsc301]

Thank you all for your lovely replies ❤️
Bebravesgain - no haven't had any thyroid checks, Dr was reluctant to do anything not even a blood test unfortunately. Do you think it would be worth doing? Xx

[Patienceisvirtuous]

I started ttc as soon as I turned 36. Didn't meet DH til I was nearly 35.

Fell pg quickly, miscarried at 6 weeks. Fell preg again about six months later, mc'd at 9 weeks. Fell pregnant again the next year, mc'd again at 13 weeks.

Got NHS investigations and some private ones after the third. Only thing that cropped up was a thrombophilia/clotting issue.

Didn't ovulate for ten months after that. Then did once (after I just received an ivf referral) and fell pg.

I'm now 39 yo and 35 weeks pregnant.

My advice? Don't give up :) A lovely consultant at Coventry Implantation Clinic - Prof Brosens - told me that persistence is key, and that his miscarriage patients virtually all get there in the end :)

[Patienceisvirtuous]

Oh - only thing I did different was take heparin and aspirin for the clotting issue (for duration of preg and beyond) - and progesterone for first 16 weeks.

[Bebraveagain]

Yes. GP should do a blood check.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2778398-Underactive-thyroid-and-pregnancy-NICE-guidelines

[Bebraveagain]

It just makes sense to do some basic tests rather than trying again straight away.

[Misssmoo]

There is a thyroid problem that runs in my family and I heard it's hereditary. .would they do these bloods if I went and asked them..what's the progesterone for is that because you had recurrent miscarriage xx

[HeteronormativeHaybales]

I'm so sorry.

Lesley Regan's book on miscarriage (definitely worth a read) has a good explanation of why people are only referred after three losses - it's basically because that's the tipping point at which it is less likely to be down to chance than otherwise, iyswim. There's also a very positive outlook in that book, so it really is advisable reading.

FWIW, I've had six miscarriages - had one before ds1, then two (in consecutive cycles) before ds2, then three before dd. It turned out after mc no. 4 that I had Factor V Leiden and another genetic clotting issue, but I still miscarried on heparin (no. 5 was a probably chance chromosomal issue, no. 6 unexplained) - however, I had dd on heparin and I will never know whether it kept that pregnancy going.

Miscarriages are common, very common, not that it makes it any better when it happens - I know how hideous and brutal it is But please don't give up hope just yet. Take very good care of yourself. (And I am aware I am writing this from the 'good side' of things, with three children and done with having babies. I do know what it is like to be on the other side, though).

[Bebraveagain]

If you have thyroid issues in tge family, even more important to insist on test. Autoimmune hashimotos is very common if its in the family. Just be assertive with GP. 😊

[gameofchance]

FWIW I had lots of miscarriages and went through all the testing and they found nothing. Just v v bad luck I guess combined with being older. I finally had DS in my 40s when I had actually given up on it as a possibility as the odds were well and truly stacked against me at that point. So yes there's always hope. But I also had lots of support from my GP and other medical professionals. I still remember lying in hospital after a particularly traumatic m/c and the lovely male consultant actually telling me at age 41 that I still had time and i was a youngster compared with some of the women he was helping with fertility treatment.

[Gingerbreadmam]

im 32 had mmc at 9 weeks first pregnancy, stillbirth at 27 weeks second pregnancy and mmc at 14 weeks third and most recent pregnancy. No live dc. It is so very hard.

I am now being referred but took baby aspirin and progesterone in most recent pregnancy. Baby is suspected to have pataus so i do wonder if the drugs sustained it longer than it would normally last. HB didnt stop until after 13wks.

you can request a thyroid test from your gp its a simple blood test. if they are willing i would ask them to check vitamin d levels too. Other more complex testing would have to be done by rmc but research shows taking baby aspirin shouldnt cause any harm and a lot of people have success with it.

The only obvious factor i have is my weight although everytime i have had a loss the medical staff have not seemed concerned about it really.

[Mrsc301]

Gameofchance and gingerbreadmam thank you so much for your replies. I am so sorry for your losses.
We will keep trying, hoping and praying.
Thank you everyone for all your replies - you have given me hope when I felt like giving up xxxx

[princessconsuelobananahammock]

Sorry for your losses You can self-refer to Coventry to see Prof Quenby/Bosens. They check your levels of NK cells. It's about £300 & takes less than an hour. It's something else to tick off the list & made me feel a bit more in control! There's lots of research into NK cells on the internet - some looks quite promising.

[princessconsuelobananahammock]

The other thing you can have privately is an AMH blood test which essentially estimates your ovarian reserve. Doesn't help with the MCs but we were considering IVF but my AMH level is fine so feel like we've got time to keep trying naturally before any decisions.