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Ladycare magnet for menopause symptoms(142 Posts)
I was reading about this the other day and wondered if anyone had tried it? Any good?
The magnet doesn't work. The only difference I noticed was my wallet was ££ lighter and my underwear was damp from where the sweat ran down off the magnet during my continued hot flushes.
I don't know if it works but a friend was once attached to a Tesco trolley by it
If your periods stopped before age 45 that is an early menopause.
This increases your risk of heart disease and osteoporosis in your 50s and beyond.
The magnet is a placebo. There is no reputable science to show it works. if it did, it would be available on the NHS. It's a placebo effect.
Your dr is right.
I have just seen a TV advert regarding the Ladycare Menopause for the first time, Had never heard about it , I had a hysterectomy in my 20's. My consultant at the time left my Ovaries due to my age. That was over 22 yrs ago, for the past 5 or so years ive being having extreme sweats all of the time, when ever I visited my GP to ask is this the menopause he disregarded me and my symptom's as side effects of the medication I take for a medical issue with my back hips etc, and arthritis. Now I finally his attention last week as really fed up with it all and what's he say , You would be the other side by now, I had not realised you had a hysterectomy so young. I pushed this time and insisted on a blood test, as he wanted me to start HRT but if I could use this ladycare device would it be instead of HRT? I take enough tablets a
Every few months, someone pops along here to advocate the magnet. They have usually had no history on the meno forum and no history on MN (unless changed names.)
I have the vision of someone at Ladycare offices being told 'Right love, post on a few forums today, we need to up sales.'
There is no evidence at all that it works. I've read a lot about it, digging into the qualifications and background of the man who invented it, who their colleagues are who have 'reviewed it' and there is no truly independent research.
It's never been peer reviewed (by independent experts) and the truth is that is a magnet worked, any old £2 magnet in your knickers would do the same thing.
The reason women think it works is they use it during peri when symptoms are up and down daily or they believe it works (placebo effect is over 30% in all drugs.)
Anecdata is not enough to say a product works.
There is a distinct lack of evidence of the actual product working, though it does appear to generate a placebo effect. And if that effect leads to relief of symptoms, that's good.
Why can't you take a poster at face value? I haven't even tried it!! But if I did, and it worked, for ME, why would that bother you? I don't work for them. I've been a weekly poster on MN for over 13 years.
This thread is full of 'different' posters using the same words to promote the product. Dodgy or what?
Call me cynical, but so many of these posts read like PR pieces, especially when the thread is reanimated at such long intervals.
In the six years the thread has been running, there doesn't appear to be any new evidence on whether these things work other than as a placebo.
My friend recommended it to me. Haven't bought one yet. Really shocked at the cynicism and nastiness on this thread!
Got to be worth a try, for £20?
Hi all I just bought ladycare today and it work a bit already I get hot flushes every half hour they lasted about 5 mins now the heat not as bad and not as long they say it could take up to 3 months to work so fingers cross they go completely anything worth the try ladies x
I cannot believe some of the cynism and almost bitter anger at the possibility that a magnet may or may not help menapause symptoms!
I've joined this forum after reading this thread because some people would rather remain miserable with symptoms than simply spend £20 and try something as harmless as a magnet!
Worst case scenario, you lose £20 BUT BEST CASE SCENARIO you become one of the thousands of women who have left reviews on the UK and USA Amazon website on this product.
And the lady who said "why is it not available on the NHS then?" Clearly doesn't understand how the NHS works.
There are many many vitamins and minerals (nutritional) products that help with all kinds of ailments but unlike the prescription pharmaceutical industry which is a multi million dollar business, there is little profit in none prescription treatments. Plus you cannot patent a vitamin.
The e cigarette industry has proven to get thousands of smokers off real and well documented cancer inducing cigarettes and it's only recently after years of negative hype and propoganda that the government have issued a statement that e cigarettes are 99% safer than real cigs.
This SHOULD have been obvious to anyone who took the time to do intelligent research instead of just reading headlines in tabloid newspapers who are paid to publish propoganda by the tobacco industry.
Who by the way, are now buying up all major e cigarette companies as they have given up the fight and realise they are losing customers to e cigarettes so want a slice of that pie now.
Now, if you are suffering with insomnia, sweats, anxiety, depression and other of the multitudes of peri and menopause symptoms you have two options.
1) continue to suffer but feel better about yourself for not being a fool for buying into a device that makes no sense and do zero research.
2) risk £20 and actually try it for 24 hours a day. And see how you feel in the weeks or months that follow.
You may be surprised and glad you didn't put your pride first.
I am very cynical and always assume I'll be one of those people something didn't work for even if it works for many others.
But I feel I had nothing to lose other than my pride and a relatively small amount of money.
When you're loosing sleep and suffering real bad with anxiety and physical symptoms then £20 IS NOTHING!
if you think it's expensive then I question how much you're actually suffering.
It works, And again, do the research, check some blogs out on HOW it works and you should find it actually makes sense.
Stop attacking people who have claimed it helps and worse still, the sneers and snidely remarks may well stop other women from buying it and it could make their lives so much easier.
And for the predictable posts asking me if I represent the lady care magnet, a big fat no.
They don't need to pull stunts like that, big company which has been trading for over a decade. Speaks for itself really.
The reason you'd get headaches would be due to the change in the medication when you start taking progestogens- which type of HRT were you taking?
I'm not sure I understand a 21-day cycle because most cycles are 28 days and consist of oestrogen daily and a progestogen from day 15-28. A lot of women get a headache after day 28 when they stop the progestogen and they have a bleed. This is the same as some women get during a natural cycle, or sometimes on the Pill.
If you are 56 and have been period-free for over a year then you could take continuous HRT which means you won't get the fall from stopping progestogen- continuous means you take both hormones daily and then don't have a bleed.
Have you discussed this with your dr at all and asked for some advice?
The other things to bear in mind is that even if the magnet works on hot flushes, it doesn't replace oestrogen so you are still at risk from other effects of the menopause- brittle bones, vaginal atrophy, heart disease etc.
hello all, I've just joined mumsnet after reading some of your reviews. I stopped taking HRT 3weeks ago, I'm 56, and was getting bad headaches at the end of each 21 day cycle, so I'm trying out this magnet, I have seen the trials are a bit vague and I'm looking for the level of power in the magnet ?400 or 200 or more, does anyone know please? I would like it to work I am open minded, I think I'm having less hot flushes but it could still be the effects of HRT wearing off. I won't write more now but I'll write in again in a month to let you know if any progress or not
I've been using the ladycare magnet for about 4 weeks. I was in the throes of getting 10-12 flushes a day but within a couple of days of using it, they went down to 1 or 2 a day. A lot of my symptoms of menopause have definitely lessened or disappeared. What I have particularly noticed is that my quality of sleep has improved no end. I just generally feel better in myself.
Like anniebrowneyes says, even if it's a placebo, it's working for me too.
Have you tried ditching it? Might be you are over the worst and your symptoms have resolved naturally after a year.
I have been using the Ladycare magnet for menopause for over a year. I was having hot flushes etc but the worst symptom by far was this horrible aching stomach - feeling like I had a load of bricks in there! Strong painkillers helped, but made me sleepy so after 4 weeks of this, in desperation, I sent The Hubster out to get one from a late night chemist 8 miles away. Magnet cleared stomach ache and brick feeling within 3 days and have used it ever since. Very infrequent hot flushes now - maybe 2 a month, clearer head and fewer migraines.
I don't really care how it works or even if it is a placebo - bottom line is that IT WORKS FOR ME!!
Well that was fun, I was strongly attracted to the checkout till at tesco!
Might have to be peeled off the fridge later.
It's obvious by the wording on the packaging that they are wary of saying it really does work- they use the word 'may'.
Ages ago I found the research showing the stats on this. It was a tiny trial using only a few women for a short amount of time and the guy who did the research was of course being paid by the manufacturer. Proper scientific trials use thousands of people over a long period of time and are double-blind.
I think it's sad women are taken in by this and even worse is that the packaging says it may also help vaginal dryness. The ONLY thing that helps that is oestrogen.
I've just picked a strong magnet off the fridge and placed it in my pocket. Will report back later. ( and sew a pocket into my pajamas).
The big problem with any menopause treatment is that the symptoms tend to come and go anyway. I have been suffering on and off for 10 years now.
Guess what, a hot flush occurred while writing this so the magnet hasn't worked so far!
I ended up on this blog while looking for general reviews about magnet therapy - the crazy discussions on here made me want to join to share my experience.
My partner read about Ladycare magnets about six months ago in the paper and told me as I have quite bad flushes. No way was I going to pay �20+ for what I thought was a gimmick, so, partly just being daft, I put a fridge magnet in my pocket. Around lunch time I realised that I hadn't had a flush all morning! I continued to have them, but much less hot and much less frequent. Gradually, they seemed to build up again, so I wondered about getting a Ladycare...but was still reluctant to spend my money on it....hence why I ended up reading the blogs.
A friend of mine had a Ladycare magnet and it made no difference to her, so she gave it to me!! I have definitely found that my flushes have eased right off again and as I now keep this on at night, whereas the fridge magnet wasn't practicla(!!) I am finding I have much less night sweats too.
I thought that this story proves that it only works for some people....and also, it is worth trying a fridge magnet before spending �20 as I reckon if that helps you then the Ladycare definitely will.
I agree with what you're saying. I agree that with all treatments many people are going to be helped just from a placebo effect point of view. And that's absolutely fine, because these people, (the 40%), are still getting the result that they want.
Yes, you're right that even though the magnet may be reducing the autonomic effects of the hormones, it's not making any hormonal changes at all. That's a good point, and one that people should be aware of.
I wasn't comparing the magnet to acupuncture, as such. Only in so much as they both seem to work for some people and definitely don't for others. As you point out there is a placebo effect for all treatments. Everyone's different and it will always be that different things help different people.
I feel that it's a bit unfair accusing everyone with just one post (that happens to be about a product that they like), of working for that company. It's a bit of a jump to make!! I'm forever googling various things and joining whichever forum I find to join in that discussion. And there are lots of "real" people saying good things about Ladycare, without having to have loads of company plants all over the internet. I understand about forum rules and all that, but some people take this too far. It just all seems a little paranoid and suspicious and, well, unwelcoming!! :/
I don't think anyone wants to create bad feeling but equally people who find it helps shouldn't get worked up if other people point out the science- or lack of it. We are all free to make a point.
All drugs and treatments have up to a 40% placebo effect - even licensed prescription drugs.
There have been posts here from people who did look very much as if they were coming from the company simply because they had no record on MN at all and their posts read like marketing/PR posts.
It's not really fair to compare acupuncture with the magnet- recent research has proved that acupuncture has some success in treating pain. And even If ( big if!) the magnet works for hot flushes etc it's not replacing oestrogen so will have no effect at all on bone density, lipids ( heart health) or vaginal dryness etc.
I think this forum is open to anyone to say- politely- what they think about a product.
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