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Week 2 - Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp

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BIWI Sun 15-Sep-13 23:55:36

Well! It's the first day of reckoning:

Here is the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness

I am waving my big stick around already, because it's obvious from the most recent threads that there has been a fair amount of cheating going on.

And we have only just finished week one!

A couple of things:


This period is designed to shift you quickly into becoming ketogenically adapted, i.e. to shift your body into burning fat rather than burning carbs.

This can only happen if you consistently reduce the carbs that you are consuming

If you cheat - even if it is just the odd thing here and there - then this won't happen, and it will take you much longer to start burning (and therefore losing) fat.

These two weeks were never going to be easy. And although I wrote about them, and how you needed to plan for them, it's clear that this hasn't always been appreciated.

I do, really, understand that it is hard. Especially if low carbing is new for you. But it's designed with a purpose, and you will really see the benefit of it if you stick with it.


Please be mindful of people who are new to Bootcamp. You may know what you can/can't do in terms of carb consumption. But there has been quite a bit of posting about cheating. Even if you are doing this mindfully, please remember that you aren't supposed to be doing this in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, and it makes it really hard for those who are new to low carbing, and who might be struggling.

A bit of sensitivity is called for here.

And finally, when you get on the scales this morning/tomorrow morning, please remember that this is about you and nobody else. It isn't a competition. Some people lose weight much quicker than others.

If you have a lot of weight to lose, chances are that you will lose it quicker than if you are closer to your target. Some people will lose a shedload in week one, but then nothing in week two - whereas others will lose more modestly, but consistently, week after week. The only thing that matters is what is happening to you.

If you haven't lost much, please don't be disappointed. Make sure that you are genuinely following the rules - are you drinking enough water? Are you eating high fat? That one glass or wine, or that small piece of cake - they all add up.

And even if you have genuinely followed the rules - if you haven't seen the scales move by much - have you measured?

We are all different, and rates of loss will be different too. Just think about the food that you have been eating, and consider how this WOE compares with low calorie or low fat diets.

Changing to a low carb way of eating as compared to a low fat or low calorie diet is not an easy transition, and it is to be expected that there will be snags along the way. Hopefully the Bootcamp threads will give you the help and guidance that you need - and I hope that when you get on the scales next, your hard work will be rewarded!

Onwards and downwards

WillieWaggledagger Tue 24-Sep-13 07:50:31

finbar you are back on there

come and join us here

Finbar Mon 23-Sep-13 17:18:30

Hi BIWI et al
I've been dropped form the Spreadhseet - can you help please?!!

holmessweetholmes Mon 23-Sep-13 12:54:59

Well I seem to have re-lost the half stone which mysteriously appeared over night - and just in time for weigh-in! That web page posted upthread is very interesting, not least because it seems to admit that, after the initial water weightloss, the subsequent weightloss does in fact come from calories in vs. calories burned, and that the reason lc works is that it is so much easier to eat fewer calories.

BIWI Sun 22-Sep-13 23:12:58

Chat thread for week 3

loopyloou Sun 22-Sep-13 21:51:51

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

B: egg mayo, bacon, sausages, fried mushroom
L: yoghurt with double cream and cinnamon
D: roast chicken, leeks in butter, courgette, sprouts
S: Babybel

LilyAmaryllis Sun 22-Sep-13 21:50:22

Very interesting reads on that link StuntNun - thanks!

I learned there that: The average weight loss for someone of my weight (between 150 - 200lbs) per month is 4lbs; 1lb a week. So anyone who sees a 1lb loss tomorrow - that's BRILLIANT.

Purple2012 Sun 22-Sep-13 20:37:34

Great link stuntnun . Thanks.

Good luck with your weigh ins tomorrow. Im nervous!

googoogoggles Sun 22-Sep-13 20:06:25

Some really interesting stuff on that link stuntnun - thanks for posting

MrsHerculePoirot Sun 22-Sep-13 18:15:29

maryz I find nandos is fine for low carb, lots of chicken options with a salad and a side serving of halloumi or the ratatouille is great. Pizza Hut is difficult I agree although if you go buffet then you can just eat salad, pizza express does lots of nice salads, I just leave the dough sticks, Chinese I find impossible actually, anywhere else I always look for a salad option, or a meat/fish option and ask them to swap the potatoes for a side salad or veg. Mcdonalds do a salad, but in just don't put the dressing on often. Sometimes I used to just make sure I eat before I go out and then just pick at he bits I can eat and then claim not hungry. I also try to look up menus before I go if I can so that I can plan ahead or know what I want to ask for which helps as well.

CiderwithBuda Sun 22-Sep-13 17:14:52

Hi all.

Back from my weekend in Dublin. Had too much wine. And wasn't great on the food side. Not very bad but I did have some brown bread, a potato and 3 spoonfuls of cheesecake and crisps. I will pay for it tomorrow I know but tbh am not feeling too bad about it. I haven't used it as an excuse to go mad. It was enjoyable. But I will be straight back on bootcamp tomorw. Food wise I will stick to it tonight but I am planning a couple of glasses of wine.

Will catch up properly tomorrow.

StuntNun Sun 22-Sep-13 16:15:50

This website: What They Don't Tell You About Low Carb Diets has lots of good info on.

googoogoggles Sun 22-Sep-13 14:59:14

Agree about lack of non-carby stuff being a complete pain. This morning, I rushed to get train back to London and didn't have time for breakfast (or planning anything) at MILs. Had Virgin first class seats (one of those strange cheaper than standard fare deals) and I thought we may get some kind of BAB thrown in (you do apparently mid-week) so I'd be okay with eggs and bacon BUT the free bagged snack was:
croissant with jam, a chocolate bar (blue riband – thought they didn't even exist any more), a shortbread biscuit, orange juice and a bag of crisps!) so NOTHING I could eat and no other options or anything I could buy that was low-carb in the on-board shop. God, sound ungrateful but still.... Anyway, I drank two black coffees and managed to last the scoffed a Pret's Salad Nicoise at Euston before heading home.
Not easy sometimes is it?

Incidentally, as a long-time black coffee drinker (I've never liked milk), I had a revelation out for dinner last night when, instead of dessert, I ordered coffee with a cream floater (sounds worrying but I was up north and this is normal parlance) so I had something when the others were tucking into tiramisu, brownies, etc. It was GORGEOUS! And it came in one of those retro glasses with a handle which for some reason pleased me no end.

Keep at it everyone and let's hope the scales of truth are kind to us.
Wishing those unwell better, too

Maryz Sun 22-Sep-13 14:46:22

Never too late, Pink - I was a week late, better late than never I think. And it's quite useful to read the threads a week behind, as you can see people start out struggling a bit and then find solutions.

Maryz Sun 22-Sep-13 14:45:31

It really is impossible to buy low-carb snacks isn't it?

I wasn't really aware before, but I went into a small shop on Friday and there wasn't a single thing in the shop that I could have bought. Apart from one small section of the fridge that had cheddar cheese and "picnic ham" which wasn't really ham at all. There were a few tired apples, and everything else was bread/biscuit/crips/chocolate/sweets.

It makes things very difficult. I've been talking to dd about eating, but when she goes out (as teenagers do), there is simply no option but carbs. Anywhere they go - Pizza Hut, Nandos, Chinese, any fast-food restaurant has NO low-carb option at all.

So unless she is prepared to embarrass herself completely and carry around a lunch box of meat and salad, she's fucked, really angry. Every time she goes out she either has to eat with the skinny kids, or announce to the world that she is fat. It's very sad.

PinkPeanuts Sun 22-Sep-13 14:28:36

Eek! In the midst of starting a new job, I forgot about bootcamp starting on the 9th even though I'd put my name down. Am I too late to join in??

BIWI Sun 22-Sep-13 14:19:33

Don't forget to keep your fluids up as well, Purple

starry - that would suggest that you're not eating enough fat!

Sorry you're feeling poorly as well

<backs away from lurgified people>

starrystarryknut Sun 22-Sep-13 14:16:06

I just tried entering my food on myfitnesspal. Ignoring their dietary advice (eat 165g carbs!!) and the red cross criticism of my fat and protein intake, I do have one question. It also says my calorie intake (less than 1000 yesterday and probably today) is too low and "risks putting my body into starvation mode and slowing my metabolism". Is this right? Should I eat more? I'm not actually hungry with this WOE, so it's not that I'm trying to keep the cals down.

Eg of today's expected eating
B scrambled eggs
L FF yog with my special low carb granola
D 2 chicken thighs, cauliflower rice, sauteed courgette

I've got a cold and feel awful, so just don't really want to eat.

Purple2012 Sun 22-Sep-13 14:13:38

Thanks girls. Tried to eat lunch but couldn't. Normally I would eat toast or something like that when feeling like this. I will just have to do nothing all day and get an early night.

NewStartNewStory Sun 22-Sep-13 14:04:39

Hope you feel better soon purple

NewStartNewStory Sun 22-Sep-13 14:03:35

Nightmare day yesterday with my food in the control of others read carby twats So mainlining the water and hoping that I can have control back for the forseeable. I might have to become entirely unsocial and tell the un helpful people to sod off. It is unbelievable how we have all be conditioned into comfort eating. Industry has really managed a complete social headfuck with that one.

B: 3 lc sausages, 2 pieces bacon, and 2 eggs scrambled.
3x coffee with milk and sweetners + 1 decaff coffee with milk and sweetner
2ltrs water so far and potential for a lot more.

About to go get some lunch. No idea what but lots of options so will see what i fancy.

BIWI Sun 22-Sep-13 13:58:48

Sorry to hear that, Purple sad

Don't force yourself to eat if you're not feeling great.

Purple2012 Sun 22-Sep-13 12:19:39

Got a bit of a dodgy stomach today so going to find it a struggle to eat 3 meals. Hoping it won't stall any weight loss.

Ruprekt Sun 22-Sep-13 11:22:08

Should have said Crabby.....I got 20 pigs cheeks for £2!!!!

I only eat Waitrose reduced food!! smilesmilesmile

LilyAmaryllis Sun 22-Sep-13 10:49:45

Mmmm Crabby you eat well, its good inspiration. (ie - double cream is a bit light... lets put clotted cream in the yogurt! Go girl!)

Beryl you aren't really slipping - you're doing perfect bootcamp light. I did that (ie, eating strawberries/raspberries) all summer and gradually made my way downwards. Maybe concentrate on cutting the alcohol but leave the rest as it is? (I haven't been drinking at all for months - not allowed to due to medication)

I felt so "heavy" this morning I nearly didn't weigh. But did in the end (after breakfast too) and I was actually down on yesterday, and 0.2lb down on last Monday. So this week I have fluctuated over a 3-4lb range. If your weekly weigh in happens to coincide with the top of a fluctuation then you're not to know - but its not necessarily bad news.

I wonder whether our bodies know its autumn, nights are drawing in, and think "better make sure we've got enough fat supplies for the winter"? Are we all working against a seasonal hormonal effect (and therefore doing really well!)?

Anyway its best to think long term on this WOE. Since May I have lost all my back-fat (Gone! Yay! but it took months), gone down a bra back-size and cup-size, gone down one or two clothing sizes depending on the shop. Pretty amazing really.

BIWI Sun 22-Sep-13 10:24:15

holmes - you can't possibly have put half a stone on overnight!

Have you got a bit of water retention going on? Are you coming up to your period?

Are you drinking enough water?

And - is the battery in your scales on the way out?

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