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Daughteroughter Wed 27-Mar-13 01:28:43

I have been reading about paleo and primal diets has anyone tried them?

Volare Fri 05-Apr-13 15:37:48

I've been meaning to try this for a while but like blackcurrants am also bf. feeling reassured and ready to go now, but have a couple of Qs:

Why are grains bad?
Why is cream ok but not milk?
What's your fave primal breakfast/snack/meal?
Can I still have coffee? Please god say yes.

Volare Fri 05-Apr-13 15:40:52

Oh, and is it alright for 2yo DC?

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 05-Apr-13 16:00:17

Xenia, I was literally an 18 stone bun guzzler shock! Not anymore tho smile.

Yy to what you are saying but people have to find their own way to this- most don't want to and IRL, I find people who ASK me about my weight loss are quite aggressive in their dismissal of grain free eating. More than one person has asked if I was sure I didn't have cancer as I couldn't be eating all that fat otherwise!
I tend not to talk about it IRL unless asked directly about this woe by someone who wants to try it, but mostly people don't get past the "no grains" as they can't imagine not eating bread, cake, pasta.

You are a little harsh on the naked bars tho! The date and nut ones contain.... Mashed dates and chopped cashews, raw too and that's it! I find them a good emergency back up, always have one in my handbag, I might have one if out for coffee with a friend and they are having cake, an occasional treat only, but all bars are not equal, wink.

snoworneahva Fri 05-Apr-13 16:05:16

You can still feed kids carby veg - which is fine for active people who dont wish to lose fat. There are lots of blogs with parents going through the paleo journey with their kids. I'm on a phone ATM but you can google paleo parents, nomnom paleo, paleomom....there must be others. I think when you are doing paleo with kids you will probably encounter quite a few external challenges - childhood seems to be entertained closely with junk food. Even before I started a lower carb lifestyle I was determined to limit the artificial crap that gets peddled to kids, I succeeded easily till they hit school - after that eating became a peer reviewed activity. Feeding a child a variety of foods can be challenging enough, throw in dietary restrictions and peer pressure into the mix and you have to tread very carefully.

blackcurrants Fri 05-Apr-13 16:08:20

thanks for all the helpful replies!

I live overseas and so don't know what 'a whole 30' is - can someone link me to something definitive?

mrsXsweet Fri 05-Apr-13 16:21:09

Thank u raw, that is really helpful. I bought the ones with oats so will look out for the other ones next time. It is the first time in a week I have wanted a snack and it was my own fault for getting too hungry. I think it sounds like a good idea to keep a bar in my bag for emergencies.
Black currants I am new to this but liked reading nom nom paleo, I thought the other link might also be useful (never linked before so hope they work...)

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 05-Apr-13 16:21:22

Volare, some free blog sites to answer your questions!, thedietdoctor and marksdailyapple - these guys are all singing from the same hymn sheet, although there are little differences here and there. There are plenty of science links on these sites, if you want to read more deeply into the "why's".

Yes it's fine for babies/kids, my 2 year old is mostly paleo (I don't freak if he eats some cake once in a while at a party), but grains are not a daily part of his diet. He eats normal home made meals like roast chicken and veg so is hardly deprived. He also, (shock horror!), eats chocolate fairly often - a little bit of 85% choc is a marvellous thing!

Coffee? Hell yes, although some would say no!


mrsXsweet Fri 05-Apr-13 16:22:37

They didn't, 2nd time lucky

Volare Fri 05-Apr-13 19:13:26

Thanks raw. Will get a-googling, and have added lots of paleo ideas to Pinterest.

I'm not precious about dd being strictly paleo; more lazy and want her to eat what I'm eating without depriving her!

Dinner was grilled chicken and peppers, salad, rye bread (any better than white wraps?), bit of feta and I will now gorge on dark chocolate.

Rulesgirl Fri 05-Apr-13 19:51:55

I make my own Naked bars using my food processer then wrap them in cling film and fridge or freeze them. They taste just the same as the "Naked" bars you buy.

buildingmycorestrength Fri 05-Apr-13 20:00:25

Breakfast today-three eggs scrambled in coconut oil.
Snack - banana
Lunch - cheese, boiled egg, cucumber - kids had baguettes too. Bit of dark choc after.
Snacks - fruity bits... kiwi, apple, dessicated coconut
Dinner - Thai fish stew, green beans, broccoli. Kids and hubby had rice too.

Am excited that our Tesco shop full of fish and meat and veg is arriving later. Man, have not been excited by food in a looong time. No cravings, either...not thinking about food a lot, not feeling peckish as much, etc.

BedHanger Fri 05-Apr-13 20:13:28

Yami, thanks. Your experience really resonates with me. My unsuccessful previous attempts were low carb and I ended up spending ages looking for cheats and treats. Both times I had a little dark chocolate followed by a proper binge. Hence why we're now looking at doing a whole30 at first.

I've just downloaded the excellent looking nomnompaleo recipe app with its whole30 compliant 30 day plan. Looks great!

blackcurrants Fri 05-Apr-13 20:14:45

Rulesgirl now THAT is a recipe I want to know more about!
I love the Nakd bards but am too cheap to shell out for them. How do you get them to stick together?

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 05-Apr-13 20:25:12

Rules - do your naked bars freeze well? Interesting as they are expensive to buy.

Blackcurent- dates are sticky so no problem with holding them together - I use date, almond flour and almond pecans to make a raw chocolate cake base (sort of cheese cake style) for birthdays and the biggest problem is getting the dates mixed, my food processor just isn't up to the job, they are very stick and jam up into a bid lump!

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 05-Apr-13 20:35:50

Violare, well rye bread... Not really ok but it depends on what you mean by rye bread- a lot of "rye bread" is actually wheat bread made using the same modern methods as ordinary bread, with maybe 15% rye flour.

Otoh, proper traditional Sourdough (try a proper polish shop) or that strange black rye bread (pumpernickel?) would be better, though I wouldn't eat them myself.

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 05-Apr-13 20:37:49

Grrr, iPhone sabotaging my already awful spelling!

Rulesgirl Fri 05-Apr-13 20:42:32
where they use oatflour or buckwheat I have substituted with almond flour but that's just me but it seems to work.

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 05-Apr-13 20:47:35

Thank yougrin!

Volare Fri 05-Apr-13 20:58:05

building Can I have the fish stew recipe, please?

this was my naughty rye bread Onwards and upwards! Need the paleo app linked upthread, methinks.

RawCoconutMacaroon Fri 05-Apr-13 21:34:38

Ah yes volare, the strange dark stuff! Certainly a better bread by a long way, lovely short ingredient list and a good choice if you choose to eat some grains...

BUT - smile, <small voice> still grain!

Volare Fri 05-Apr-13 22:16:34

I know raw, but it is day one and am complete carb junkie. Lots to read tonight during the night feeds, and I'll soon be a hardcore cave girl who likes red wine and the occasional croissant.

buildingmycorestrength Fri 05-Apr-13 22:25:07

I put a load of fish (salmon, haddock, coley) in the slow cooker (frozen, I might add) with a tin of coconut milk, some of our homemade frozen chicken stock cubes, water to cover, and the following Thai herbs and spices: a couple of pieces of galangal, some kaffir lime leaves, some lemongrass. Think that's it.

Left it to cook for a few hours. A few minutes before serving I squeezed a couple of limes in. I think you can add chilli but I wanted the kids to eat it. Some people add Thai fish sauce but I don't fancy it. Will eat the rest of the broth as a soup tomorrow. It was lush! Can do same with chicken, I think. Once you have that collection of herbs and spices they last for ages. Well worth getting.

Forgot to actually PLACE my Tesco order so no delivery. Doofus.

buildingmycorestrength Fri 05-Apr-13 22:34:12

Meant to say that I have been thinking about paleo for aaaages. Could not manage it.

Then my brother just dropped casually into conversation that he'd read that wheat is an appetite stimulant.

It was like a lightbulb going on. Suddenly it all made sense. I stopped eating wheat as much as possible for about three days, but carried on with rice, oats, etc then it just sort of fell into place.

We'll see. It feels easy just now.

Rulesgirl Fri 05-Apr-13 22:35:29

Raw...sorry thought I had frozen a batch once but my daughter tells me that this is not the case. But we do keep them in the fridge for ages.

BedHanger Fri 05-Apr-13 22:49:48

Interesting, building.

Btw, how do you make your stock cubes? Your soup sounds delicious!

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