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SiennaBlake Mon 21-Jul-14 17:43:10

I can't include details because I live in fear that the ex's new lady friend is on here but WHAT A FUCKING LIAR.

The lies just roll off his tongue for absolutely no reason. Such pointless lies. They don't benefit him any more than the truth would. It's like he gets a weird pleasure out of trying to manipulate me through lies but at the same time is too fucking thick to realise that I know he is lying.

Aaaaaargh the rage the rage the rage!

Aaaand calm.

Are any of you stuck with a compulsive liar as an ex?

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kinkyfuckery Mon 21-Jul-14 17:45:52

Yup!

I've managed to detach hugely the past few months, but he's still A COMPLETELY LYING WANKER!

Feels a bit better grin

SiennaBlake Mon 21-Jul-14 17:47:21

I think I'm getting to the detach point now too!

THESE WANKERS! ARGH!

<pokes pin in voodoo doll> grin

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Pinkballoon Mon 21-Jul-14 20:42:40

Yep! My ex was a compulsive liar. Would lie for the sake of lying. I find its easier to ignore communications from him, particularly those that include lies. And I live in fear that his new one (s) are on here too! smile

SiennaBlake Mon 21-Jul-14 21:29:24

It's like it's automatic for them, isn't it! I might take a leaf out of your book re ignoring! Ha, I watch every thing I type on here now that could out me, I'm so paranoid that they are on here <looks around> grin

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ChanelNo19 Mon 21-Jul-14 21:32:37

it's a personality disorder thing. they're hardly a real person because they make themselves up as they go along. they know it too.

SiennaBlake Mon 21-Jul-14 22:27:13

I have actually wondered if there is something like that going on with him. He has these dead eyes like a shark and just always had to work at his emotions. Tears when it benefitted him but never at an actual emotional time. Lie after lie after lie. A complete fictional life now you mention it! Took a while to find out.

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foolsrushin Mon 21-Jul-14 22:45:03

Ahhhh how refreshing!! Yes my ex is the same!! All of a sudden talking to the ex ex ex who accused him of allsorts when he got with me. Dragged my kids into the drama and made his own childs life a misery. Now using her as he still knows she has feelings for him to 'protect him' from my truths!! Just sit back and wait ladies I believe truth always outs itself smile

Pinkballoon Mon 21-Jul-14 22:56:25

Yes, it tends to be tears and imaginary illnesses when they are found out. Mine even went to a fake 'heart' appointment (on a Sunday?) when he knew I was on his case. Came back with some odd equipment strapped to his chest, which was quickly discarded when he thought he was safe again. OMG, even thinking about it makes me realise what an utter wanker he was. Foolsrushin - yes, my ex made friends with his ex too.

Pinkballoon Mon 21-Jul-14 23:00:19

Siennablake - unfortunately, the deeper you dig, the worse it gets. My life unravelled the day he left his phone behind and my daughter picked it up as an opportunity to play Angry Birds. Emails and texts laughing at me with his family (before, during and after childbirth); making plans with his ex wife to financially exclude my daughter with him; affair after affair after affair; hard core sex sites, dating sites… Everyone being played off with everyone else. The lies were absolutely shocking.

SiennaBlake Mon 21-Jul-14 23:08:48

A fake heart appointment! shock It's creepy the way they think the fake tears will work. Mine was "crying" because he thought I'd caught him cheating but then he had "evidence" of an alibi and the tears went off like a switch. Fucking creepy to watch!

OMG fools, mine is the same. At the risk of outing myself, he's back with his ex who he told me terrible things about. I believed them for a long time until he started saying them about me. Poor cow, stuck with that. She probably has no clue the things he said about her.

Oh no, pink sad it must have been very difficult for it to all hit you at once. Mine was more of a slow unravelling so it must have been extra shocking to get it on one go sad

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foolsrushin Tue 22-Jul-14 07:49:48

Well trust in this as I do.....none will have a happy ending because as we women do these exes and new women will start to think hmmm what really got said? What really happened? I'm a quiet little soul and never rocked the boat when we were together so if I was an ex I'd be thinking, wonder what really happened, wonder if there is an element of truth in it etc? It will take time but our minds have a way of questioning these things......in time x

littlemissminime Tue 22-Jul-14 11:56:03

My EX sat and told a SW he was going on holiday so couldnt see his kids that week...lies, then apparently booked Jamiaica over the weekend! ha, closest hes getting to Jamaica is the cake aisle in Asda!

SiennaBlake Tue 22-Jul-14 12:04:43

Unfortunately for my ex's new but old lady, his family are equally psychotic and lie for no reason so she will probably never realise and will be stuck with him. It's sad really that there will be woman and after woman who falls for the lies these men tell because they are so good at it!

Cake aisle grin did the SW realise he was lying?

I'm at a crossroads now, can't decide whether to pretend to believe the lies and hopefully keep contact to indirect contact or whether to confront and risk him starting the process for direct contact. I live in fear of him doing the lies to dd because I don't want her head to be messed with by him.

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ChocolateFreckles Tue 22-Jul-14 15:12:22

No point in confronting the lies because they'll just lie some more. I'm in exactly the same boat.

Pinkballoon Tue 22-Jul-14 16:03:53

SiennaBlake
Mine would dismiss all of his previous ex's as alcoholic obsessives with mental health problems……. Actually, a very accurate description of himself.

As with your ex, my ex's family were all the same too. His brother was bitching and lying about me with my ex (by text.) So confronted him about this (sending him a copy of his text.) He denied it. Er…ok.

The families tend to be the enablers.

Pity the ex who has got back with him. You won't have to sit and listen to all of his lies whilst you're silently thinking "Oh, dear.."

SiennaBlake Tue 22-Jul-14 16:37:42

Good point, chocolate. That's what he's done every other time too.

My ex has similar "crazy" exes. The one he is with now was one of them and he told me something awful about her that I used to tell him not to say because it was so cruel. If she knew he'd said that, I doubt she'd be with him but she will never know. He's so manipulative. I feel sorry for her knowing that his friends and everyone she will speak to now connected with him have also heard that lie.

I agree with the family being enablers. I think they are also the teachers! His older siblings are the same and his parents even more so. It's so weird when they deny with evidence right in front of them, isn't it! I had the same with an email.

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Pinkballoon Tue 22-Jul-14 16:54:43

Its a parallel universe Sienna Blake! We're best of out of it! They sit playing everyone off against each other with their lies, and become enraged if one person contacts another about one of the lies (did you experience that?) I even had emails instructing me not to talk to Xperson or Yperson (once he had found out that we had made contact and his lies had come out)!!!

Like you, the stuff I heard about his exs was eye watering. But then you sit there and think: "So why did you stay with them if they were that bad?" Dread to think whats being said about me now.

I spent so many hours earnestly trying to prove to my ex that he was lying, not realising that he was just sitting there thinking up his next pack of lies. I just ignore everything now unless it comes with concrete proof. And it rarely ever does. I really fear for my DD with a father like that.

They live in a weird weird world!!

ShropshireLady Fri 25-Jul-14 16:50:40

It seems a lot of them about!! Go on a site called psychopathfree and look at an article on the 30 red flags - textbook personality disordered behaviour. Most of them just act like kids and can't take responsibility for their actions

SiennaBlake Fri 25-Jul-14 18:19:16

Parallel universe is the perfect description! I have concrete proof on the latest lies but even then I think he will try to lie. It's so odd really. He would lie that the sky is green if he felt it would benefit him.

Eek! A lot of those red flags apply to my ex! Definitely lacking in responsibility. Everything is always somebody else's fault.

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ShropshireLady Fri 25-Jul-14 18:46:42

Ultimately they are the ones who will end up alone. They sabotage their own chances and relationships with their BS and lies. I hadn't come across one for many years until recently and I thank him for making me aware of everything I was NOT looking for in a partner! Deluded assholes!

yummytummy Fri 25-Jul-14 22:10:04

yup all lying idiot feckless bastard wankers aaaaargh gd to let that out!

Pinkballoon Fri 25-Jul-14 22:16:22

Its just so odd. I just don't get it.

caramelwaffle Sat 26-Jul-14 20:44:05

Have a read of the Baggage Reclaim website: it'll open your eyes to who and what these people are, and why they do what they do.

AC786 Wed 06-Aug-14 17:20:44

Mine is a compulsive liar too.... It's like he actually believes in his lies! What then do you do with regards to children being in that environment?

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