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Croydon High School and Old Palace of Whitgift School

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mummytime2 Mon 29-Dec-14 15:31:15

I've seen that there is thread on Mumsnet Croydon Local for the boys schools (Whitgift/Trinity/Dulwich etc) so thought I'd even it out and start one for the girls schools.

Thinking of applying for Croydon High School for my daughter. I have the impression that it is better than the Old Palace but not sure if this is just based on the area being nicer.

I can't seem to find out from their websites when school starts and ends. Does anyone know? Also, I see that Croydon High School has bus routes but I can't see how much it costs.

If anyone has any information about the schools - their reputation, do they 'add value, and the buses that would be really helpful.

LocalEditorCroydon Mon 29-Dec-14 15:39:28

Thanks for starting this thread mummytime. Let's hope some wise owls come to help you with these questions.

SandersteadMum Mon 29-Dec-14 16:06:43

About time we had a thread for the girls' schools! Always lots of info for the boys' schools on here. I wonder how best to prepare daughters for the girls' schools. Unlike the boys' schools , the girls' schools don't seem to offer a practice paper. We don't want to go down the tutoring route but not sure how to help if we don't know what they're aiming for.

Also, are the girls' schools very difficult to get into? I don't know if many from the Junior schools stay on (am assuming they get automatic places in the Senior schools) as I have heard that a large proportion go on to the Wallington Grammar Schools.

Seeline Tue 30-Dec-14 10:12:10

If you're looking for this year I'm afraid its a bit late. CHS results came out the week before Christmas. I think OP exam is at the beginning of January.

Seeline Tue 30-Dec-14 10:18:37

SandersteadMum CHS give example papers when you apply. Fairly standard stuff although I understand the general view was that the actual vr paper this year was harder than expected. There were lots of Junior girls at the exam, so not automatic progression. Some may have been trying for scholarships I suppose.
I think a lot of this years y6 got places at Wallington - possibly Newstead Woods too.

Somelikeithott Sat 31-Jan-15 15:30:38

Thanks for past papers info. Seeline.
Also heard ( from old head of CHS), that 80% of girls from junior school continue to senior school.

Don't really know about movement in OP

Somelikeithott Sat 31-Jan-15 15:32:31

I'm guessing all the girls sit the exam though, unless they definitely don't want to remain under any circumstances.

takeiteasynow Tue 22-Sep-15 15:39:37

I know this thread seems dead but want to add a little bit.
Girls from Old Palace prep only take the 11 plus exam if they want to go to the Seniors. Transfer is not automatic. However, the girls from prep do not need to pay for the exam. There is also an Old Palace plus course which 11+ candidates can attend at a fee. They need to pass the exam like everyone else. There has been talk of exceptional situations where parent may be advised in advance if their daughter may not be accepted for the Senior School.

chappedhands Wed 16-Dec-15 23:16:05

Old Palace has a fine reputation, and it is important to remember that it is linked to the fine reputation and deep pockets of the Whitgift Foundation. Trinity and Whitgift School are its brother schools and Old Palace benefits hugely from these relationships. My daughter came to Old Palace on a scholarship and a music award, and was also awarded a bursary as an alternative option to the scholarship. The school is outstanding academically: just this week a girl was given a provisional place at Oxford to study medicine. My daughter is in the 'pre-med' stream where she is under the special tutelage of a PhD biology teacher specially tasked to get OP girls into medical careers. Last year 5 girls received offers for medicine (the Sixth Form cohort was 45 girls).

Old Palace staff are happy, and have excellent reputations and long years of service. The grounds of the senior school are on a Grade I Listed historic sight, attached to Croydon Minister. It gives shivers to walk around the buildings knowing Elizabeth I slept in one of the classrooms, and the chapel was visited by a long list of royals as they progressed towards Canterbury.

The school is friendly and my daughter has never felt there to be any cliques -- she says the small class sizes and year groups means they are friends across the year group. There is a quiet pride amongst the girls at Old Palace: they are intelligent and dignified. No sloppy behaviour. Many of the girls are first generation born and raised in the UK and their parents have especially high aspirations of their children. I like that the parents are motivated for their children to get a firm educational footing towards high professional success: I have seen no complacency. They know it takes hard work to make it in our culture, and this message is transmitted to their girls.

The head is conservative but kind, and this is well received by the parents. She is always available day or night, and holds special Saturday surgeries for 'drop in'. The Sixth Form Head, Mr Talleux, is a dream. He is adored by the girls and -- he is French and dresses accordingly; he has a great sense of humour tied to being extremely organised in shepherding his girls to aim for the very best educationally with an eye towards getting the best university spots. He is a treasure.

A very special word must be reserved for a quiet reality: Old Palace has one of the finest programmes of musical training anywhere in London. There is the select Polyphonic, who performs Evensong at the Minister and around the country. Trained by Cambridge educated Mr Hemmings (probably the most beloved teacher in the school); my daughter is studying voice, piano and flute to high standard -- this is very common. There has been involvement with Glyneborne Opera in conjunction with Trinity's music programme; there are three Pan Drums groups; a Pre-Polyphonic programme treats younger girls as serious singers in training for the prestige that awaits them in the advanced choirs. There are two orchestras, an Advanced Flute Choir and many, many other ensembles. Old Palace is Whitgift's sister school of choice to join in producing exceptional drama programme. My daughter is in the chorus of the upcoming Sweeney Todd; last year girls were in the cast of Spamalot and The Crucible. Girls even have ballroom lessons at the moment with Whitgift boys! Of course there are a huge range of other activities, including sports, on offer. I am just explaining those I know.

No one who plans to educate a daughter in the Croydon area can afford to miss visiting Old Palace. If only for your finances! Whitgift Foundation gives out over £1 million in scholarships and bursaries each year: who else has those kind of deep pockets?

eimear1983 Tue 19-Apr-16 12:00:38

Just to say Emma Pattison, the newly appointed Head at Croydon High ( starts September 2016) is speaking at the Senior Open Evening on May 10th and will also be available to meet Junior parents at the Open Afternoon on the same day. Good opportunity to meet her and hear her vision for the school

Appleblossomandermine Wed 11-May-16 17:26:37

New head seemed lovely and I couldn't believe how confident the year 7 and head girls were.

JanW19 Sun 18-Mar-18 16:21:56

Does anyone know anything about music at Old Palace at the moment? My daughter is musical and we were thinking about Old Palace as we heard it was good for music.But I was recently told that the head of music has changed and there isn't as much going on. I looked at their website (and found this post where chappedhands writes lots about music) and there's lots of stuff about operas and tours but it all seems a couple of years old (and mostly singing)

BossC Mon 28-Jan-19 17:22:08

Does anyone know what it's like at Old Palace at the moment?

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