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Career and moving to New York(10 Posts)
Name changed of course - I fully appreciate this sounds insane so please keep an open mind. I'm from and live in England. I want to live in New York City or surrounding areas. I have travelled there multiple times and it has always been my goal since I was a child, every time I have been it just cemented it more, it's one ultimate goal of mine that has never faltered. I know visiting as a tourist and living there are different but hypothetically let's say I 100% know it's for me. I'm about to graduate with a BSc Hons in something reliable (think biology/medical but not that specifically) so can go on to pretty much ANY field of science study or choose from a wide range of entry level jobs now. I don't know what to do next. Athough I have really enjoyed my degree I don't have any idea what specific job I actually want to do, I'm suited to scientific or medical research and professional type work over 'customer' facing work but I basically just want to work my way up to decent job with a company that will sponsor me to move to NY. I am interested in academia in my science subject in the future possibly and there are constant developments in the area, especially in the US so that's good. I do have one child but by the time I have saved and got a decent footing in my career DC will be a teen or more likely an adult so not too worried about Visa implications of taking a young child with me (obviously if it could be sooner that would be amazing, if I didn't have to consider that I would look into postgraduate studies there, which is possibly still an option but obviously a lot harder). No partner or anyone to object to moving if I did take DC. No family here. WWYD? What careers and companies would you look into in this instance? I know someone who moved to New Jersey with Barclays but I'm not sure what job I would do with a company like that - perhaps data science? I feel like I've given myself a good base and looks like I will get a 1st in my degree which I am very happy with. I can basically do anything I want now, including GDL, grad medicine - I just don't know what I want other than I want to live there. Sorry if you live in NY and hate it , yes I have thought about health insurance etc, I have read so much on here and elsewhere about this, others considering it and changing their minds, info from expats and people born there. I just can't stop feeling how I feel, I know it's ridiculously idealistic. I can't really explain it properly. I've spent so much time thinking and there are just so many options, of course nothing is guaranteed but I would rather have this than have a dream job for example. I am genuinely prepared to work for years to get this. Anyone have any thoughts or has moved to NY themselves and can share their experience and how they did it? Thank you!
If you really want to guarantee moving to NYC, you should look in to graduate schools here. Maybe an MBA? It's very, very difficult to get a work visa. Most people I know who have transferred over are in Big 4 accounting or an investment bank. You might have some luck with Biotech or a fellowship at one of the big medical schools/hospitals like Mt. Sinai.
Why exactly is it you're so desperate to move to NY? I live here, and I do love it, but it's nothing like it's portrayed in the movies or on TV.
Thanks, my own university does offer an MBA so worth a look as I would get a discount! Like I said I'm 100% willing to work my way up and focus on this, mainly because I think it is fairer on my son to not go and study over there whilst he is so young but if I did get the opportunity I would definitely consider it, it's hard to even to know where to start looking! This probably sounds strange as it feels strange to try and explain it, but I don't know WHAT it is, I just know that I feel it. Everyone gets the holiday blues but when I leave there I feel different - like I'm leaving home, certainly not like when I've left other holidays or visits. I love the hustle and bustle, that really is my thing. I've been and stayed there and not done any of the touristy things and still loved it. I've never visited anywhere else where I've just felt comfortable, even when I had no idea what was going on! I don't even know how to explain it I just feel like I know which I do realise is idealistic.
You need to see it as a 10-year plan. Either carry on studying and hope for an O-1 visa as a highly qualified person. Or get some years working for a multinational in the UK under your belt and then apply for a transfer (obviously do your homework and make sure the company does actually have offices/plants where you want to go and does transfer people).
Despite being “the nation of immigrants” the US is one of the hardest countries to get into unless you have immediate family here (parents, adult children, siblings or spouse/fiancé). I am the wife of an American and that is by far the easiest visa path and family-based immigration accounts for the largest chunk of all immigration to the USA.
The H-1B visa, for example, which is one of more popular work visas, is capped at 65,000 per year. For a country of over 320 million people, that’s nothing. It’s massively oversubscribed and so it effectively becomes lottery whether you will be accepted or not. L-1 visas (company transfers) are not capped and the process is easier. There’s no guarantee that you will be able to stay permanently though. A work visa is often time-limited unless the company goes through the expensive and risky (on their part) process of applying for green cards for you. The risk for the employer is that once you have a green card (which has cost the company thousands in government and legal fees), you are a “free agent” and could quit your job and go and work elsewhere and there’s nothing they can do about it.
If you are looking to make it permanent, then you need to follow a visa path that has the possibility of leading to a green card. Not all of them do (E-2, for example).
A student visa to study here is very costly (you have to prove you have enough savings to cover the tuition and your living costs) could give you a few years to “try before you buy”. For a student visa, however, you have to demonstrate that you will return home at the end of your course. It’s not a dual-intent visa (a visa for a time-limited stay but with the option to change status once here). People do change status in student visas if their circumstances change but that cannot be the intent at the time of application.
I would apply to graduate school in NY and be maybe try to get a visa after you graduate (very difficult). An MBA from your own university won’t really help you get to NY. Try to work for a multinational or a US company with offices in the U.K.
This is really not a hiring time in the US, especially of nationals from overseas. A lot of Brits and other Europeans have gone back to their country of origin recently. I agree getting a job in a US firm that has offices here in the US or getting an academic post is probably your best route.
Why didn't you do this before you had a child, OP? That makes everything so much harder, doesn't it? You'd have to factor in bigger accommodation and childcare, too.
Thank you for the advice everyone, will take it all into account. @HollowTalk I had my son before I was even 16, had no idea what I wanted in life then. As mentioned, am happy to work towards moving once he is older and to not necessarily have to take him with me.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to ask that in such an interrogatory way! I was just thinking there might have been reasons that you chose then that would still apply now. You're very brave having a child so young - that must have been very tough. I hope you do manage to do it - it was always a dream of mine too - I still wish I'd done it. Good luck!
No problem @HollowTalk and thank you! It’s been extremely hard but also extremely worth it