what do i need to know about geneva?(13 Posts)
Housing costs are high, very very high. Quiet a few major companies have moved their global headquarters to Geneva over the years because of tax advantages. This has put real pressure on house prices. But all is not lost. A vast number of expat workers in Geneva are not EU citizens, so they do not have the option of living over the border in France, because their visa does not allow them to. This means that there is less demand for property over the border, which frees up costs.
Living in France means cheaper, larger housing, far cheaper supermarkets, cheaper utilities, cheaper everything. There are large communities of Geneva expat families living in the French villages of Ferney Voltaire, Saint Genis Pouilly, Thoirry, and other villages along the border.
Geneva is a staid place, it's clean, but dull. The expat community is massive and always has something happening. Fine for small families, but people in search of more then expat bridge nights run off to the lovely funky city of Lucerne for kicks.
Add the cost of medical insurance into that mix too.
We moved from Zug just over a year ago, best thing we ever did. We were in one of the lowest tax cantons, but the cost of rent and health insurance balanced it all out.
I used to drive to Mulhouse once a month to fill the freezer with meat.
Immoweb.ch or immo.fr should throw something up.
Have a look at englishforum.ch too. Somewhat childish, but does have some useful advice.
Hopefully, MmeLindt will be along soon. She does live in Geneva.
We moved to Geneva at the begining of June after almost a year planning. I have three children age 6, 4 and 2. We love it here so far and are really happy that we have moved. Switzerland is eye wateringly expensive in most areas but so far, DH's salary seems to compensate though we have yet to sit down and do a proper monthly budget (it's on the to do list but we are still having an extended holiday - real life starts in September!!)
comparis.ch is also a good site to look on as it combines other property sites and has car prices etc.
Homegate.ch wll allow you to search the French areas close to Geneva.
Weather in the summer (at least this summer!!) is great. 31 degrees today! There have been a few rainy weeks this summer and appartently that is unusual.
If you live in France and work in Geneva you pay some tax where you work and some where you live - there are people on the englishforum who have put together some info about "frontaliers" who are people who cross the border to work and can also answer questions on this.
Given the enormous strength of the Swiss Franc at the moment, living in France would be a very smart move and you would cross your fingers that long may it continue for you! Non obligatory school starts at age 3 (sometimes 2) in France, as oppose to Geneva canton where it starts at age 4.
Yes yes yes to living in France. Especially with the strong CHF.
You would pay around CHF 4000+ monthly rent for a 3 bedroom house in Geneva canton. At the very least.
Agree with health insurance costs and find out what exactly the deal is. You can have lower monthly payments but have to stump up the first couple of thousand CHFs each year. With young children, the chances of you needing the doc occasionally is high.
It is a great life, I really like living here.
Would you be looking at local schools?
And yes, get a relocation agent, if you can.
Houses are very difficult to find, many don't even go on websites, and a good agent will have contacts so they will know of houses that don't go online.
Don't be put off by not so sterling kitchen and bathrooms, they are often a bit dated. If you like the house and location, live with it.
I'd love a piece of advice on local schools for kids aged 6 and 9 ))
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