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Is fuel poverty only for those on benefits?

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fizzbuzz Fri 22-Aug-08 13:01:17

I only ask, beacuse with these new round of current rise in power prices, we are spending well over 10% of our disposable income on fuel, it is now more like 18%.

The only benefit we receive is a tiny bit of child tax credit (and we are not getting that as we are curently having to pay back an overpayment)

I am just interested beacuse it is talked about in terms of elderly or people claiming benefit....but nobody else hmm Obviously we are not as short of cash as these people, but it is a real struggle to find these new payments. I wonder if we are a missing statistic like a lot of other people, or the definition is only applicabe to those on benefit.

How many more are like us?

Nemoandthefishes Fri 22-Aug-08 13:02:42

my Dh works but he doesnt earn much rise in fuel and shopping bills is killing us.

TheDevilWearsPrimark Fri 22-Aug-08 13:03:42

I know exactly what you mean, my friend is a single mother, she works from home and gets ctc but no other benefits, but she's really struggling with bill hikes.

fizzbuzz Fri 22-Aug-08 13:04:09

Same here.....if it is applicable to a lot more people, shouldn't the government know?

Not that they will actually do anything........

TheDevilWearsPrimark Fri 22-Aug-08 13:04:24

tbh she's worked out she'd be better off not working, and claiming benefits. The system is seriously messed up.

woodstock3 Fri 22-Aug-08 16:01:06

if it helps the official definition of fuel poverty is needing to spend more than 10 per cent of income on fuel bills
so if that's you you are officially fuel poor: doesn't matter if you are old/young,on benefits for not. when you read in the papers about fuel poor being pensioners and benefit claimants etc that's just sort of shorthand, as a lot of fuel poor people would be in those categories, but then again quite a lot are not (and every time the bills go up, quite a lot more are not....)
unfortunately being classed as fuel poor doesnt actually entitle you to anything automatically so far as i know.

wasabipeanut Fri 22-Aug-08 16:17:15

not for much longer methinks.....

Nagapie Fri 22-Aug-08 16:25:25

in Today's Times

Jaamy Mon 25-Aug-08 01:06:20

My Parents get a winter heating allowance because they are over 65. My mum gets more in her pension (she worked in the NHS for 40 years) than I got paid when I was working. She doesn't really need the heating allowance. I'm sure there are many more like her but she has paid her tax and NI for 50 years and has never claimed anything before. The entire benefits system is really messed up.

nervousal Mon 25-Aug-08 09:17:41

Jaamy - my DPs grandfather lives in sheltered housing. Gets a host of benefits and ends up paying less than £20 per month for rent/heating etc. He also get the winter heating allowance - which he admits he doesn't need. He says he's got more money now that he ever did when he was working. I agree that the benefits system needs looked at

herbietea Mon 25-Aug-08 09:21:47

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expatinscotland Mon 25-Aug-08 09:37:13


We are a working poor family who are looking at one very, very cold winter.

We get child benefit and some child tax credit. That's it.

We'd be financially better off on benefits.

If there has to be benefits reform, it would be nice to see some of it in the form of helping out the working poor and/or pensioners who literally can't get a job.

SpandexIsMyEnemy Mon 25-Aug-08 09:41:08

don't know if any of you have heard but the government are suppost to be giving all families with 1 child £150 this winter for the fuel bills (like the old folks getting £100 each)

not a great deal no but if it's true I shall certainly welcome the extra help from my fuel bills.

SpandexIsMyEnemy Mon 25-Aug-08 09:42:32

(or shall I say any family who has CB will get £150)

expatinscotland Mon 25-Aug-08 09:42:48

I'd not heard that, Spandex!

SpandexIsMyEnemy Mon 25-Aug-08 09:45:33

well one would imagine it will cover scotland as well expat, but it's the talk down here at the mo - dad was telling me about it, but not sure if it's just pipe line plans, nan says you get a cheque thru and it's up to you how you spend it (it's non means tested as well)

for me it will go either £75 on each lump sum or £100 gas £50 electric.

SpandexIsMyEnemy Mon 25-Aug-08 09:47:17

my mistake it's not 100% yet but is hopefully planned

not so sure myself if he's only doing it to win votes - not that i'm a sceptic!

expatinscotland Mon 25-Aug-08 09:51:24

it's about £400 to fill our LPG tank so anything we got would go towards that.

ilovemydog Mon 25-Aug-08 10:02:18

wonder if you'll get more if you have 2 kids smile.

expatinscotland Mon 25-Aug-08 10:03:01

Hmm, I wonder if anyone will get anything at all because they need to figure out how to afford it.

herbietea Mon 25-Aug-08 10:40:35

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