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Leaseholder for a flat and owe nearly 2k in fees

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Dolphincrossing Fri 09-Feb-18 21:18:34


The flat is mine and I owe nearly £2000 in fees on it.

I’m hoping to put in place an arrangement to pay on Monday but if they won’t accept this what happens? Presumably they can’t evict me, or can they?

Grateful for any advice.

Jon66 Fri 09-Feb-18 21:21:29

They will apply to court which will lead to you forfeiting the lease. You really need to reach an agreement with them.

Dolphincrossing Fri 09-Feb-18 21:28:06

Thanks -I know, I suppose it’s just if they say no.

Presumably by the time they take it to court it would take several weeks. By which time I would probably have the money.

Ginorchoc Fri 09-Feb-18 21:30:29

You might have to pay their legal costs which won’t be cheap.

Dolphincrossing Fri 09-Feb-18 21:31:12

So effectively I could have to give my flat to them, is that correct?

pilates Fri 09-Feb-18 21:48:54

Who do you owe money to Freeholder or Lender? Either way, I would be communicating with them and arranging to pay an agreed sum each month.

busyboysmum Fri 09-Feb-18 21:50:28

Be careful if you have a mortgage because you could potentially also be in breach of your mortgage conditions by being in arrears with the lease

SleepIsForTheWeek Fri 09-Feb-18 21:54:55

You won't have to give them your flat but they can force you to sell. It's in no-one's interest to go to court, am sure for a relatively small amount they will arrange a repayment plan with you.

Dolphincrossing Fri 09-Feb-18 21:59:00

No mortgage. Thank you for replies. It isn’t threatening eviction, just ‘you need to pay this.’

Jon66 Sat 10-Feb-18 01:25:10

Hi, sorry in a bit of a rush before. The freeholder of the property, who I'll call A has a number of rules they have to follow when issuing service charges. It is a pretty complex area, but there could be a technical defense if it did go so far as to court, because they may not have followed the rules. Unless I'm mistaken, when it comes to lease forfeiture it's the Land Valuation Tribunal that deals with these cases anyway. It isn't a case of them applying to the tribunal and A being granted forfeiture. There is a hearing, and provided you went along with a reasonable offer that should be accepted. If you have attempted to reach agreement and they have been awkward about things, keep a record. Basically they should accept a reasonable offer. This could be £25 a month on top of your usual service charge, it will take 6 years, but provided you have at least 8 years remaining on the lease this is reasonable amount. The best way of doing these things is to sit down at the weekend and go through your income and expenditure, including everything from utilities to lunches at work, to petrol, mot and so on. If you go to the step change or national debt line website you will find some sample financial statements which should give you an idea of the detail needed. Be accurate though because in my experience most people underestimate their outgoings. When you can see how much you can afford to pay back, that is the offer you should make. I always tell clients to try to negotiate for less than they think they can afford. For example if you can afford 60 pounds a month on top of the usual service charge, offer 30. You can always pay more than agreed, but you will be in an even worse situation if you offer 60 and miss payments. Hope this helps. If you need further advice try Shelter adviceline.

Dolphincrossing Sat 10-Feb-18 08:25:34

Right, I’ve misunderstood in that case. Beg your pardon. It is a service charge. Apologies. This is for the gardens around the apartment and the cleaning of the communal areas, lights etc. Not a lease. Sorry.

Jon66 Sat 10-Feb-18 10:53:33

If you own a flat, unless you bought it with part of the freehold, which is unusual, then it will be leasehold and the above applies. I an talking about service charges,

MessySurfaces Sat 10-Feb-18 18:10:26

jon is that true that paying it back over 6 years is viewed as reasonable? I'm on the committee for the block I live in, Service charge is based on incurred costs, so how is the block meant to function with debt being paid back over years? Argh! We have a non payer and it's a nightmare, the other flats are effectively subsidising that one.

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