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Can't Stop Won't Stop - MLM Botwatch 10 Now Featuring MLMers who don't answer questions, jokes, posts by eyes, questions about Forever Living, Ariix, Younique, Jamberry etc as scambralamas

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lastuseraccount123 Thu 25-Feb-16 16:08:03

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@Timeless Vie

Soon to be on Instagram smile smile !!

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For newbies: Downline = people at the bottom of the pyramid scheme/"MLM" opportunity

Feel free to re-ask all your good, fact-based questions to our new MLM visitors! Just keep your expectations low.

Be prepared for being called a drug dealer!

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Willdoitinaminute Sat 27-Feb-16 17:25:29

Google Glutathione, this is the bodies own antioxidant.
I know I sound like a bot but I'm just a medical professional who has been following the research in this particular area of medicine. I was horrified when I discovered that Juice plus was being hawked by an MLM. They have used a very small amount of very specialised research to validate the product. It is basically freeze dried fruit and veg ground to a powder and put in capsules.

DayToDayShit Sat 27-Feb-16 17:34:24

So, is it a good substitute for fresh? And in the freeze drying process are any vitamins lost or depleted?

Willdoitinaminute Sat 27-Feb-16 17:35:06

scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=human+glutathione+s+transferase&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjy4MKvvJjLAhULshQKHaN0AEcQgQMIGDAA
Try this link for information on human glutathione s-transferase. Our very own unique antioxidant.

rayofhope Sat 27-Feb-16 17:45:28

If it's so good then why not sell it in the shops? I'm totally put off by it and will never use the products even if you are saying they are good. They are extremely expensive (and actually if they were sold in shops the price would be cheaper as they wouldn't be trying to pay everyones upline out of it)

willdo do you use the products yourself?

Willdoitinaminute Sat 27-Feb-16 17:46:29

I really don't know. The only research I have seen was to do with gums. The team were very excited by the potential for nutrition becoming part of the treatment pathway. They only used Juice Plus because it allowed them to control the dietary content of their subjects. I presume their choice was based on evidence that freeze drying did not alter the nutritional value.

cozietoesie Sat 27-Feb-16 17:49:55

Well of course parslaii is effective, Wild. Good grief. grin

Willdoitinaminute Sat 27-Feb-16 17:54:18

When I first saw the potential I did try to get hold of some but couldn't work out how it was being sold. This was a number of years ago. I opted to force feed my family broccoli and brassicas instead. So glad I didn't follow it further. I'm sure there are other similar supplements out there being sold legitimately. At the scientific presentation of the research paper I attended the advice was a good whole food diet rather than supplements.

Willdoitinaminute Sat 27-Feb-16 17:55:13

And of course Parslaii!

cozietoesie Sat 27-Feb-16 17:55:59

wink

rayofhope Sat 27-Feb-16 17:58:08

I see a lot of people online who seem to take the shakes, Fruit, Berry and Veg blend capsules and the boosters.

Looks like (from the website) you have to sign up for 4 months (4 payments) as a customer. So if I wanted to take all these (as recommended by the reps) this is how much it will cost you

Shakes - 4 x £32.50
Capsules (all 3) - 4 x £57.75
Boosters - 4 x £19.50

That little lot is going to cost me £109.75 PER MONTH! (for 4 payments) so nearly £450 altogether. Thats insane.

DayToDayShit Sat 27-Feb-16 18:00:35

Totally insane. You could buy good quality organic fruit and veg for that. They are eating food as well, so that is an awful lot of money just on supplements. Imagine your outlay for usual shop plus JP

DayToDayShit Sat 27-Feb-16 18:01:11

What is in a Booster I wonder? More fruit and veg?

rayofhope Sat 27-Feb-16 18:35:52

Day it's got something in it called glucomannan which is apparently a natural fibre that expands its volume in the stomach.

crumpetsfortea37 Sat 27-Feb-16 19:27:21

What I do not understand is why "natural" is seen as synonymous with "beneficial". Digitalis is natural, so is deadly nightshade, so are the various fungi you may come across. Just because something is natural does not mean it is not toxic or can be taken safely with (or, heaven help us, instead of) prescribed medications

Ribbet8890 Sat 27-Feb-16 19:45:43

i can't keep up! heading back to page 1 of this thread !

bettyberry Sat 27-Feb-16 21:03:48

New bot tactic. Don't mention the company and tag 50 people in the post

sminkypink Sat 27-Feb-16 21:19:15

Its hardly natural though is it? I wouldn't want to chug down a load of soya powder and that much sugar everyday. It's processed isn't it? I used to take Berocca (the Lidl knock off of it anyway), but It has artificial sweetener, so I've started having a squeezed orange and a multivitamin instead. I do not want any coloured powders and certainly not at over £100 a month!

prettyusefulsometimes Sat 27-Feb-16 21:19:45

A JP bot trying to hawk the children's chewables was my first experience of MLMs.

The migration of JP bots, who style themselves as nutritionists on their personal and "business" pages, to Ariix, looks to be a natural progression. And natural is the operative word, JP bots are obsessed with clean eating, natural remedies, chemical free, additive free etc, etc co-opting a wider trend in healthy living. Ariix have similar obsessions, with the skin care/hair care range in particular emphasised as being chemical free.

As has been mentioned so many times it's a cliché, who are these people who one day worked in a low skill 9-5 job (nothing wrong with that obvs) and the next after a couple of memes, a bit of crappy cut and paste, some leaflets and a couple of recipies featuring bloody coconut oil are advising me about my child's diet??

If I were being particularly tin-hat'ish could the MLM obsession with pure/natural/clean products be linked to the Mormon views with cleanliness:
The Word of Wisdom is a law of health revealed by the Lord for the physical and spiritual benefit of His children. On February 27, 1833, as recorded in section 89 of the Doctrine and Covenants, the Lord revealed which foods are good for us to eat and which substances are not good for the human body. He also promised health, protection, knowledge, and wisdom to those who obey the Word of Wisdom ww.lds.org/topics/word-of-wisdom?lang=eng

Mormon knowledge courtesy of being a big fan of Big Love www.hbo.com/big-love grin

Powertotheparalai Sat 27-Feb-16 21:25:56

See that's what I don't understand 'if you don't like the tag inbox me and I'll remove you from the list smile' is that to say friends list? As in accept that I'm going to tag you in my posts or we will no longer be friends?

cozietoesie Sat 27-Feb-16 21:47:32

I would assume so - and if people are concerned about that then the message might already be subconsciouly biting. (For some people, to be defriended,is a fate worse than death.)

Use Those Friends!

Tick Those Boxes!

bettyberry Sat 27-Feb-16 23:14:19

No idea! A friend was tagged in the post so it popped up in my feed.

I agree with the unfreinding/deleting. For some it's a big social failure. Hard not to feel miffed because In real life friendships have obvious signs of faltering. Online it can be anything and in this case it could be a simple request not to be tagged and it really can feel like a gut punch.

I don't like the way it was presented. Tagging ensures people read it, it almost always guarantees a positive response and would guarantee queries from a good %, even if they were 'wtf!?' You've opened the convo and the selling can begin. Tagging is the sociala media form of junk mail.

NameChangeEr Sat 27-Feb-16 23:17:02

And if you message them to be removed, you'll get a sales spiel back!

throwingpebbles Sat 27-Feb-16 23:34:12

What's happened to eyes ???? Has a drug deal gone wrong?? Or is he just looking up new jokes <panics>

Powertotheparalai Sat 27-Feb-16 23:42:57

Or maybe Amway HQ have got him shock

cozietoesie Sat 27-Feb-16 23:43:28

It's Saturday night, throwing. Give him a chance! grin

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