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MLM BOT WATCH 9 - NOW FEATURING DESPERATE COUNTER PR BY MLMs who don't answer questions- lighthearted chat and posts by Eyes about NuSkin, Forever Living, Ariix, IT Works, and (insert name here)

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lastuseraccount123 Tue 23-Feb-16 17:38:19

@Timeless Vie

Note for newbies: "Downline" means people who are the lowest level of the pyramid/MLM scambralamabra.

Patzy85 Tue 23-Feb-16 17:40:19

I feel this is going to get very interesting, very quickly!

nextyearrodney Tue 23-Feb-16 17:42:38

So chatty Google must love us so wish I had shares in that company

throwingpebbles Tue 23-Feb-16 17:46:37

Marking place, getting out popcorn and looking forward to seeing how creative with the truth our flurry of lovely new friends can be, and how deft they are at failing to answer all the critical questions....

The raw pain of the ex-bots is so searingly honest compared to this glossy story we are being peddled

barnbot your name comes up a lot in PMs as one of the worst bullies in the business.....

fastdaytears Tue 23-Feb-16 17:46:58

No embarrassment at all. There were non MN FB comments saying (I paraphrase) "OMG I can't believe you bought that".

To be fair to you though at least it's not a castle.

VegoDoll Tue 23-Feb-16 17:47:16

I didn't find you through google. I found you through a thread on the relationships board...

fastdaytears Tue 23-Feb-16 17:48:02

barnbot your name comes up a lot in PMs as one of the worst bullies in the business

That can't be right, she only does this business because she cares about people.

throwingpebbles Tue 23-Feb-16 17:48:09

Another question for natasha why don't forever get their products medical licenses if they are so sure they will cure all manner of ailments??? There must be enough money too as dear old Rex was able to donate so much to homophobic causes???

AloeFucker Tue 23-Feb-16 17:48:16

Barnbot, do you have a Whatever Happened To Baby Jane style relationship with Emma Cooper?

workingwithchimps Tue 23-Feb-16 17:48:57

Throwing - the raw pain is that they failed. They were no good - you can't be good at everything - life's cold hard fact. If I thought that I would make a good brain surgeon or fighter pilot but failed who would I blame - I would accept it and move on... you should too..

fastdaytears Tue 23-Feb-16 17:50:26

Medical schools don't take people's money though telling them they can be brain surgeons when over 90% will fail completely.

workingwithchimps Tue 23-Feb-16 17:50:43

Fast - you are inciting again - I don't know Barnbot - but PM's between people and cold hard cash are two things - one pays the bills the other walks in the park

Toobusytowee Tue 23-Feb-16 17:50:51

Natasha, the reason people say FLP makes you spend £160 a month on products is because, to stay 4CC active, £160 has to go through your account. A lot of people find it hard to get that much in orders so they are encouraged to just buy the stuff themselves and try and make up the other CCs in recruiting. There are many YouTube clips of FLP people telling everyone at success days to do this. It is then dressed up as, 'why not? You need to try the products anyway!'

Patzy85 Tue 23-Feb-16 17:50:57

Workingwithchimps -

shadowplay Tue 23-Feb-16 17:51:24

Place marking with a question for Natasha. I was under the impression that in order to make bonuses in fl, you had to do 4ccs per month and that 1cc had to come through your personal account. If that cc wasn't going to a customer, it means you (the distributor) had to fork out for it. Is that right?

shadowplay Tue 23-Feb-16 17:52:01

Beat me to it toobusy!

CheekySmile Tue 23-Feb-16 17:52:08

Vego the 3-5 year thing is interesting, we've heard that quoted before. I'm paraphrasing here but something like '3-5 years intensive work and then you can retire on a great income'. My own friend quotes this quite often, that it's just for a few years and then she can stop and live the life of her dreams. Do you know of anyone who has retired? The retirees seem to be absent from our research, despite trying to find them.
We've seen some of the top earners in MLMs (FL mostly) who've been in the business for over 20 years and still need to recruit each month in order to stay active.

workingwithchimps Tue 23-Feb-16 17:52:16

Fast - medical school have failures and take the 70K it takes to train a failure - RAF spend millions on failures before they call it a day fact

nextyearrodney Tue 23-Feb-16 17:53:31

the raw pain is that they failed. They were no good - you can't be good at everything - life's cold hard fact. If I thought that I would make a good brain surgeon or fighter pilot but failed who would I blame - I would accept it and move on... you should too..

Ooh I spot a standard script here - blame the person, it's their fault for not working hard enough. Nothing to do with the odds being totally stacked against them then!

Can someone post the numbers again about how likely a recruit to a mlm will loose money.

throwingpebbles Tue 23-Feb-16 17:54:31

chimps' I was never a bot, I am very successful in a real and fulfilling career, I have nothing to "get over". I have seen actual real people lose a lot of money to the Forever scan, and have spoken to lots of real life doctors about the appalling health claims made about forever products and they are horrified and warn any doctors/nurses making such claims are likely to be struck off!

NatashaBarnBotShingles Tue 23-Feb-16 17:54:53

I'm not here to comment on other people, what I can say is I have upset many people long before MLM and lets just say they will always have something nasty to say regardless of what I do or say. A bully??? Laughable, but none of you would know the truth of that without knowing me or the people that state it! That's surely he said she said! I am merely giving you a view from the other side. I was appalled that my children were mentioned on here and as yet no one has explained why that was! I'm not here to argue and I actually agree that there should be blogs like this for people to research but it's gotten very personal and very bitchy and opinionated without any real substance. I already know lots on here about me was assumption not fact which means many posts about others is too probably

ambler21 Tue 23-Feb-16 17:55:54

Hi Natasha and thanks for joining in. As well as the answer to question 1, which is important and surely must be known by head office, were you aware of Rex Maughan supporting a campaign in the US to stop homosexuals having the right to marry? Thanks. Also out of interest were you made aware of the company owners Mormon values when you joined. It was a suprise to my forever friends when they were informed.

throwingpebbles Tue 23-Feb-16 17:55:56

I note even Forevers own code of conduct forbids medical claims or indeed even "testimonials"....

shadowplay Tue 23-Feb-16 17:56:09

Chimps - the fact is 90+% of all people that join mlms will fail. We are calling on you, Natasha and anyone else to prove us wrong.

If there was a casino game or any game where 90+% failed, I'd say the game was rigged, rather than blame the players.

Eggsandketchup Tue 23-Feb-16 17:56:14

So much script. Wow.

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