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Everyone on Tax Credits are benefit scroungers and shouldn't be breeding!

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CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 20:49:45

First of all guys, this is an attention grabbing headline. I DO NOT subscribe to this awful statement, and others that are flying around about the tax credit cuts.

The Tory government have really pulled the wool over the eyes on a lot of people on this one.

Everyone out there seems to believe that these tax credit cuts are only hurting those unemployed. Anyone on tax credits is being deemed lazy, good for nothing benefit scroungers, and people are tired of paying for them.

No for one moment has anyone realised that 75% of those on TC's are actually working. But our jobs are so shittily paid, the TC's have topped us up so we can actually afford to buy some food.

Here's an article here about parents who are happy with the cuts:
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/its-time-child-tax-credits-6035167

We are going to be worse off, and I know lots of you on here are going to be hit badly by these cuts, yet we work.

Is it our fault that we have low paid jobs? It is our fault that it costs so much to live in this country, our low paid job doesn't cover it?

I don't know if there's anything we can do, but I really don't want to sit here and do nothing and watch so many hard working families struggle. I'm tired of being broke as it is.

There's been comments flying around that 'if we'd all paid more attention in school, we could all have those better paid jobs'. Really smart arse? Then who does those low paid jobs? Who cleans your house? Who cleans your car? Who stacks those shelfs, or answers the phone to help you with your enquiry? Someone has to do these jobs, and these jobs aren't well paid. Does that mean because we're not 'bright' enough, or well educated enough, or not given the opportunities that you had, that we aren't able to have children?

By the way, it's rich people that have children. Poor people just breed.

Tax credits were there to help families with children, and workers on their low wages to top them up, so that they can have a better standard on living. More comments flying around is that maybe if we all got rid of our iPhones, Sky Packages, and stopped smoking, then maybe we would get by without benefits. Anyone been reading the Daily Mail too much??? I don't smoke, have an iPhone, or Sky. Our car is 15 years old. There is no lavish lifestyle on benefits here.

The Tory government have done a great job on painting us poor to be real scum, so when they came to cut the tax credits, they would all cheer.

And where is the compassion? Or is anyone not bright enough to see beyond what the newspapers want you to see.

I've been working since the age of 16. Paying my taxes for nearly 20 years. So I pay into the system, and when I need help, I can't take from it?

What if life was good, and wages were good, and we had our children, and then shit happened. We needed help. Should we not have had children? At what point are you so financially stable that you are allowed to have children?

Redundancies happen. Cancer happens. Shit happens. Where is the compassion from those so well off, that they could contribute to that system that helps those less fortunate. We have bugger all money, but I still put food in the food banks, as I know someone else is worse off than us.

How can we get across how much this is hurting the parents that are working? How can we change perceptions of that rich/poor divide?

We have to do something. The Nasty Party is well and truly back.

StonedGalah Sat 11-Jul-15 21:11:23

This has well and truly been done. Could you not have contributed to fifty million other fucking threads.

CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:15:49

Thanks StonedGalah, that really helps.

StonedGalah Sat 11-Jul-15 21:24:53

Just to be clear, l wasn't trying to be helpful.

Honest to fuck the moaning and name calling since the GE would make me fucking embarrassed to be British.

If your job doesn't pay enough, look for another one, find a second job. This utopia people think the UK should be is pathetic, unless you want a true socialist country where the doctor and cleaner are paid the same. Is that it? A doctor should go to uni for how many further years but still get paid the same as the one cleaning your bogs?

That's it, l need a break from mn. I seriously can't handle any more of these stupid threads.

CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:28:06

Don't read them then.

CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:35:07

Haha, I've just realised you clicked on this thread because you agreed with the headline.

Brilliant.

StonedGalah Sat 11-Jul-15 21:37:12

Having been on mn for a long time l knew what your post would be about and l wanted to see how pathetic it would be.

I wasn't disappointed.

PurpleSwift Sat 11-Jul-15 21:42:46

Really SG? Second jobs? You realise there's a job shortage and already 800,000 people actively seeking work in the UK? There aren't any where near enough jobs, where are these jobs you speak of?

paintinglady Sat 11-Jul-15 21:43:11

StonedGalad , just how many hours should people have to work to feed them selves and put a roof over their heads ! These cuts affect people working full time jobs already . I hate this notion of a better job or a second job . some have found their level in life , if thats cleaning bogs then so be it ! There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, somebody has to clean toilets , be care workers .
If they don't, society can't function , does that mean they should live in poverty .

nemo81 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:43:17

I don't think anyone wants cleaners/shop workers etc to be paid the exact same wage as say a doctor BUT to make it a fairer system. Why should a cleaner have to scrap by, they work and are doing a worthy job and pay into the system just like is other workers.

And also to stop with all the nasty judgemental comments that low earners seem to get thrown at them, not to mention the comments the unemployed get! That makes me feel ashamed to be British.

CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:45:48

Glad to hear. I do so hate to disappoint.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:46:09

Good. Hope more Tories leave MN because of this thread wink

YaNBU

Noeuf Sat 11-Jul-15 21:46:54

To be fair it's in the right topic.

CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:47:11

Nice one FanjoForTheMammaries smile

FructoseTart Sat 11-Jul-15 21:48:13

I completely agree with you.

Both me and my partner work. Him full time, me part time. We were considered 'well off' not in receipt of any benefits, then I had a mental breakdown. This lasted over 2 years and I was not fit to work. I could barely look after my 2 (at the time) children, let alone myself.

Benefits really helped through that time and although I still couldn't pay all my bills, I managed to pay the main ones with TC topping up DPs wages.

5 years on he still works full time in a low paid job which he loves! And I still work part time in a slightly higher paid job but also have another child who is 3 weeks old so I am on maternity. We don't get much TC but it helps an awful lot - if we lost it we would struggle to put food on the table as our wages just about cover our bills hmm

This country is so fucked up it's unreal. I don't understand how they seem to think these cuts won't make more children grow up in poverty! Mind = baffled!

CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:48:13

Excellent points nemo81 smile

StonedGalah Sat 11-Jul-15 21:48:17

I didn't vote tory Fanjo.

ShabbyNat Sat 11-Jul-15 21:49:08

What is it with you people??!!
Us people that rely on Tax Credits are not allowed a voice now??
Are we too stupid/uneducated to have a view?
Perhaps we are putting our families first & the benefits are there for us to claim to make our lives a bit easier without having to ship our kids out to childcare that the government provides benefits for us to pay for it?!
I work in a primary school kitchen, part-time, to feed every-ones children while they are at school, regardless whether they are hot dinners or packed lunches, they all need help at some point that we provide.

I am educated, I do not have extended family to help me, I am happy to claim benefits until I can start working full-time again so I can give up claiming these benefits that so many people find offense that I claim.

CarrieLouise25 Sat 11-Jul-15 21:49:30

Hi FructoseTart, there's a complete lack of compassion out there. StonedGalah is a perfect example.

blondiebonce Sat 11-Jul-15 21:51:36

I have to claim some benefits because although I could easily pay my rent etc to bring up my baby when i was with my partner, when we broke up because he was an absolute tool my part time job I'm lucky to have doesn't cover everything.

This isn't aimed at you OP but those making sweeping statements want to wind their necks in. If you're fed up of the threads about this stuff move the fuck on. This is a worrying time for many and I don't suppose they have time to trawl mn for every topic done ever while they look for support.

cruikshank Sat 11-Jul-15 21:51:54

What, were they not right wing enough for you?

Viviennemary Sat 11-Jul-15 21:52:17

For a start not everyone on tax credits has what I'd call low paid jobs. The system was ridiculous. And I'm glad it's changing. But it's not fair that lower paid people will lose out more than better off people on tax credits. They should just have lowered the threshold for claiming them. And I agree that it shouldn't be for unlimited numbers of children.

StonedGalah Sat 11-Jul-15 21:55:30

Why should you get to work pt but i have to work ft to support my family and ship^ my kids off to childcare^?

That is the attitude that got the tory government voted in! I am worse off with this budget, hence why I'm in this section of mn to find some tips and crack on.

KeepOnTryingTilYouRunOutOfCake Sat 11-Jul-15 21:55:53

Carrie I agree with Stoned, your thoughts could have been tacked on to the end of any thread regarding this, but no, you wanted your own soap box to stand on, self important rubbish.

cruikshank Sat 11-Jul-15 21:56:42

(That was to StonedGalah.)

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