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Could a school have arranged for a nursery to open within the school without a tender occurring?

(6 Posts)
NurseryQuestions Mon 30-May-11 17:20:07

Or should it have been advertised?

Does it matter that it's a VC school?

What happens if they have given the work/opportunity to the nursery without a tender?

prh47bridge Mon 30-May-11 18:57:16

If the nursery is independent of the school it is likely that they are paying the school for use of their premises. There is no requirement for open tendering in that case.

Even if the school is paying the nursery, my understanding is that EU rules on open tendering only apply if the value of the contract is greater than the threshold value which I believe is over £100k.

NurseryQuestions Tue 31-May-11 07:33:10

Really - I'd have thought council rules wouldn't just let a head give a contract for making money to 'anyone'

Surely as a money making exercise it should be tendered under LA finance rules

meditrina Tue 31-May-11 07:54:24

Is this a company using land/buildings previously occupied by the school in order to operate a separate business? Have they rented/bought the space they occupy?

Actually, that sounds a but unlikely as you say they have a contract. Who awarded the contract - the landowners? The LEA? Do you know anything else about the terms of the contract? It seems highly unlikely that an individual head has the legal expertise to write a contract without proper legal/procurement support - or that a business would accept one that was not properly drafted/authorised.

Can you tell us more about what has happened?

NurseryQuestions Tue 31-May-11 08:03:54

As far as I understand the head/governors are renting a room to a (not very local) nursery

They tried a few years ago to do it, the room was all converted & the nursery pulled out.

I just thought they couldn't just say to xyz 'Hey do you want to run a nursery in our room' & then sort it all out

Maybe I am naive

prh47bridge Tue 31-May-11 09:39:01

Given that the nursery is renting a room from the school I am amazed that you think any kind of open tender process is required.

If I go to a school and say I want to rent a room to do X they will tell me how much it costs. Provided I am willing to pay and they are happy with the use I intend to make of their premises we can do a deal. They do not have to say, "Hang on a few weeks while we advertise and see if anyone else wants to do something similar on the premises".

In this situation it was open to anyone wanting to run a nursery on the school's premises to approach the school and rent the room.

LA rules regarding contracts would only apply if the school was paying the nursery. The fact that the nursery is making (or hopes to make) money from the exercise is immaterial. Any profits they make come from their users, not from the school.

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