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If you record someone without their knowledge.....

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StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 15:30:58

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IDontLikeDisciples Mon 29-Nov-10 15:32:58

It depends entirely what you are using it for

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 15:34:19

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IDontLikeDisciples Mon 29-Nov-10 15:43:01

Noyou would definitly need permission to record.

IDontLikeDisciples Mon 29-Nov-10 15:44:01

Is this the thing you posted about a couple of months back? (vague recollection...)

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 15:50:10

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scurryfunge Mon 29-Nov-10 15:51:57

You can record an individual's conversation providing you are not passing it on to a third party.

What are the circumstances?

maxpower Mon 29-Nov-10 15:53:04

As I understand it, a recording without consent is inadmissable as evidence. Can't you get someone independent to attend any meetings so that they can verify (or not) the accuracy of any minutes?

IDontLikeDisciples Mon 29-Nov-10 15:53:05

I have had just that problem, you have a right to see the minutes during the meeting, but you will have a real struggle convincing them.

I am currently in the middle of a 3rd tier complaint re social services and the misinformation in their records is shocking.

All i can suggest is that you have a 3rd party present at your meetings to take notes, ideally a solicitor, but if not anyone 'respectable' (ie would be able to sign passport forms)

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 15:53:58

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scurryfunge Mon 29-Nov-10 15:54:08

You could have a vote of no confidence in the minute taker and request that someone else does it.

You could raise the issue as part of the agenda in these meetings.

lisad123isgoingcrazy Mon 29-Nov-10 15:54:17

no you could get yourself in serious trouble too
I would offer to take the mintues myself and also refuse to sign them until they are redone.

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 15:54:50

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StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 15:55:29

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pastaplease Mon 29-Nov-10 15:57:40

It's perfectly legal.

scurryfunge Mon 29-Nov-10 15:59:31

You can record a meeting for your own use (to help write up the minutes).

scurryfunge Mon 29-Nov-10 16:01:06

There is nothing to stop you making your own notes during the meeting and presenting those as information to whoever questions it.

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 16:02:13

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StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 16:04:37

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Longtalljosie Mon 29-Nov-10 16:04:45

Scurry is right. But a contemporaneous note is admissible in court. So don't tell them you recorded the meeting, make notes and time and date them.

scurryfunge Mon 29-Nov-10 16:07:20

Think so. confused.

Could you be open about it and plonk your record on the table at the beginning of the meeting and state you are doing it to clarify any later misunderstandings.

Longtalljosie Mon 29-Nov-10 16:08:08

Right OK...

I can only tell you what's generally accepted as good practice as a journalist. Which is that secret recording is generally considered a no-no unless you have prima facie evidence that something is going wrong.

So it's OK for (say) Rogue Traders to do their stuff - as complaints have been made, so that prima facie evidence exists that the plumber being recorded is a wrong 'un.

I would argue that if you have repeatedly found your views are being misrepresented, you have reason to record the meeting to illustrate your point. But I'd proceed with a lot of caution and a solicitor.

scurryfunge Mon 29-Nov-10 16:09:05

*recorder

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 29-Nov-10 16:09:59

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scurryfunge Mon 29-Nov-10 16:11:42

Could you invite the press in? Is the meeting of local significance?

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