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Why does a cycle fail?

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Bibs2014 Tue 28-Mar-17 15:23:08

I had the scratch, embryo glue, the blasto was hatching out of its shell when they put it back, it survived the thaw so was strong, I had good lining... so why did my cycle fail?sad

Kannet Tue 28-Mar-17 15:23:54

It's hard I know. I just had to keep reminding myself it was just one of those things

bananafish81 Tue 28-Mar-17 15:36:10

Not all embryos are chromosomally normal

An embryo can look beautiful and be supposedly 'top quality'

But can still be abnormal

I had 4 great quality blasts that PGS testing showed were all chromosomally abnormal

A genetically abnormal embryo can't make a healthy baby

Other issues may be receptivity, high nk cells, clotting disorders

Hope you can be kind to yourselves x

Bibs2014 Tue 28-Mar-17 15:47:06

Thanks both.

Banana how much is that PGD testing?

Bibs2014 Tue 28-Mar-17 15:47:17


JoJoSM2 Tue 28-Mar-17 15:53:44

About 3k where I inquired.

Bibs2014 Tue 28-Mar-17 15:55:09


bananafish81 Tue 28-Mar-17 16:04:22

It's horrifically expensive.

And only really worth doing with a lot of embryos or after recurrent implantation failure

It was £3000 for 8 embryos

Plus the cost of a FET as the embryos are frozen immediately after biopsy, as the results take up to 2 weeks

It was a useful diagnostic for me as I've now miscarried 2 PGS normals, so we know my issue is the uterine environment (the soil) rather than the embryo factor (the seed)

Bibs2014 Tue 28-Mar-17 16:24:52

I've had 4 transfers. Second one resulted in DS. We only ever get 2 that get to the final stage, 1 fresh transfer and 1 to freeze.

blue2014 Tue 28-Mar-17 18:25:09

bibs if you've no Frosties left from this round and wanted to try another I think PGS at Reprofit in Czech Republic works out about £1000. So the total round with meds comes in at around £4000

GlummyMummy Thu 30-Mar-17 20:57:02

That's the million dollar question, OP!!! I was in exactly the same situation as you on my last round and still got a negative test result. Was told it could be an implantation issue, though not sure what I can do about that for next time. Doing our last frozen cycle next month, had scratch, acupuncture etc last time but this time I'm inclined not to bother with any of that. Been recommended baby aspirin so might try that but other than that I'm at a bit of a loss as to what I can do!!!!

What did you do in the cycle where you had your son? My first IVF (of 4) was successful but that was 4 years ago now and I do have low AMH. In my first attempt, I ate junk, didn't take any supplements and didn't even know about the scratch back then. And the embryo wasn't the best quality I've had either. We just got really lucky!!!!!

Bibs2014 Thu 30-Mar-17 22:02:36

Glummy - cycle when I had my DS was a FET. When I did the fresh cycle I still had the odd drink and cigarette shock as we had male factor. When that failed I went on a massive health kick and took up running. Organic food, no fizzy drinks, loads of water, no processed food. DH totally gave up booze and fags. Didn't do that this time - DH still had the odd drink but we both gave up cigarettes this time.

Last FET and this FET had acupuncture, the scratch, glue, was so hopeful and now nothing sad. I didn't do the whole organs thing or exercise this time. Perhaps I should've done.

Bibs2014 Thu 30-Mar-17 22:03:01

Organic not organs

bananafish81 Thu 30-Mar-17 22:34:47

Have you been to Coventry for the uNK test?

Worth doing for recurrent failed implantation

Bibs2014 Thu 30-Mar-17 23:00:42

Do you know the cost involved for that, bananafish?

bananafish81 Fri 31-Mar-17 08:40:24

I believe it's about £500. That includes free repeat biopsies

Bibs2014 Sun 02-Apr-17 22:56:17

Thanks banana.

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