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Thin womb lining- what can help? Or just go for assisted conception?

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zumm Mon 24-Feb-14 20:52:15

Hi, I suspect part of the reason why it's taking me so long to conceive is that, now I'm 41, my womb lining is much thinner than when I was younger (periods now 3-4 days vs 6-7 days). I've had a scan and apparently the womb lining looked normal for 7 days (had scan on day 7). fsh levels, progesterone at day 21 all fine. But I know my body has changed (post d&c). I just wondered if anyone had any ideas of what I could do - medication to take or etc to help the womb lining. or whether just to go for ivf for max likelihood of falling pg. ...or whether there's something else I sd do first.

(PS I am currently on second cycle of - very low dose, private doctor prescribed - Clomid despite normal ovulation - and I worry since clomid can of course make the womb lining even thinner.)

Thanks v much for any feedback!

Happilymarried155 Mon 24-Feb-14 21:17:12

I heard pomegranate juice in the first half of your cycle helps. Maybe do abit of research though because I'm bit entirely sure of quantities and things smile x

zumm Mon 24-Feb-14 21:21:19

Cheers happily - I did drink a fair amount of the stuff for a couple of cycles. I know pineapple helps too. Been doing acupuncture also. But I think I need the big guns: drugs of some sort.

sharond101 Mon 24-Feb-14 21:32:10

My lining didn't thicken enough on clomid. We did IUI and it worked first time with my lining thickening just perfectly.

zumm Mon 24-Feb-14 22:01:30

Thanks sharond - maybe that sd be my next step then - only thing is that I've noticed weaker periods for tge past 8-10 months - did u have that issue pre-clomid or only during clomid? Also, did they put you on any meds to help this (or indeed other) issues when doing iui?

Queenofknickers Mon 24-Feb-14 22:04:24

I had a v thin lining so was given oestrogen patches. However when saw v top fertility consultant he said that a couple of millimeters were enough and that wasn't really an issue. Hope that helps?

zumm Mon 24-Feb-14 22:07:12

Queen that's v reassuring - thanks for the info. In fairness, I've been told my lining is normal. I,m just panicking (rightly perhaps) because it'll be 2 years ttc in March...

Shellster52 Tue 25-Feb-14 00:50:31

I have very light period lasting 2-3 days zumm. I am doing IVF (again!) next cycle and am currently inserting Viagra pessaries during the follicular phase of my cycle to see if I get a heavier period. Obviously not expecting to get pregnant this cycle but just hoping that more blood flow to reproductive organs this cycle means more follicles ready that will produce eggs for next IVF cycle. I will also take it next cycle too if I find good results from this cycle. Also just want to test to see that they work for me before I waste $$$$ on IVF and it's a no go because of a thin lining.

Here's the info I read about Viagra that prompted me to try it:
http://haveababy.com/fertility-information/ivf-authority/vaginal-viagra-for-thin-uterine-lining/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12413996

zumm Tue 25-Feb-14 14:43:01

Yes, I heard (or read, rather) about Viagra ps but noted you cant (easily?) buy them in the uk so have done nothing about it (also mentioned to my crappy £££ private doctor who didn't seem to acknowledge or react to my questions about Viagra ps). Anyway I'm going yo go on my laptop now to click into your links - many thanks. Ps where did you get your pessaries from - it may be too late for me now (day 5 of cycle). thanks again & best of luck to you with this all!

SharpLily Tue 25-Feb-14 15:08:52

Red clover worked for me.

zumm Tue 25-Feb-14 15:10:48

Had a look and I can't see a way of getting these pessaries in the UK. Any thoughts? (This is probably why my doctor dismissed it- or at least didn't take up the idea.)
I wonder if there's a second best - i.e. pill form viagra - but what would you do with the pill…?

zumm Tue 25-Feb-14 15:11:40

Oh Sharp, interesting! -Pl can you tell me about red clover? When did you start taking it in your cycle, for how long, and at what dose?

naty1 Tue 25-Feb-14 16:20:59

I took brazil nuts about 3 a day. Also i take pregnacare conception.

zumm Tue 25-Feb-14 20:09:31

Naty - I'm eating the 3 Brazil nuts (I forgot that was the reason why)... Did you find that has helped you? can't say its made any noticeable difference to me - yet!
I'm still v intrigued about the Viagra - just can't see a way of getting it in that form in the uk.

sharond101 Tue 25-Feb-14 21:41:36

I had no cycle at all so can't compare with that one. I had gonal-f injections, clomid then an hcg shot during IUI.

Shellster52 Wed 26-Feb-14 01:12:37

I am in Australia and initially thought that the Viagra pessaries were not available here either - only the pill form. I then discovered that I need to go to a compounding pharmacy where they can make them up. I had to get a script from my doctor.

I notice in your initial post, you ask if you think you should just go to IVF for max chance. Personally, I would get the ball rolling for IVF straight away. If you have been ovulating naturally and trying for 2 years, I can't see that taking Clomid to help you ovulate is the answer (although I hope for you it is!) How are you going with your current Clomid cycle?

zumm Wed 26-Feb-14 15:25:01

Sharon - did the IUI plus hcg work for you?
Shell - thanks that's v helpful. Current cycle - day 6 & I'm on less than the absolute minimum amounts (i.e. am on a 1/4 pill per day).
Not mad about the drug, I must admit (hot at night and last cycle severe mittleschmertz - could feel ovulation - new for me! Though last cycle I was on half a pill per day 2-6. And it made me quite angry :-) (not sure why the smiley but ah).

werenotreallyhere Wed 26-Feb-14 15:26:49

I went teetotal and periods got heavier (and I got pregnant soon afterwards) almost immediately, mine also were a lot heavier when younger and had got very light

zumm Wed 26-Feb-14 16:32:04

Were...I know I sd...have already given up tea & coffee ...but still drink (aside from 2ww). Argh. But thanks for the tip & congrats that's great news for you!

werenotreallyhere Wed 26-Feb-14 17:27:29

Honestly, the whole process, each month, was so stressful I almost needed a drink to get through it, and I didn't want to give up (small amounts) of booze because I was trying to not put too much pressure on it all (we'd been trying for a while) but it was really the only thing that worked. That was 3 years ago now grin. Good luck, it is so stressful, and so disappointing each month.

sharond101 Wed 26-Feb-14 21:57:45

yes it did, first time. I have a beautiful 21 mo DS upstairs asleep. Just waiting for name to come up on list to try for No2.

Shellster52 Thu 27-Feb-14 02:08:31

Werenotreallyhere, what do you mean by teetotal? Would like to try anything to get naturally heavier period.

werenotreallyhere Thu 27-Feb-14 07:50:50

Shellster, no alcohol, completely. It may not work for everyone! Good luck.

naty1 Thu 27-Feb-14 09:18:31

I also saw something saying ivf can be more successful if you dont drink (either person) and i yhink for the couple months beforehand.

zumm Thu 27-Feb-14 09:27:01

were my god grrrl, it's hard - but you know how it goes. Well done! Shell - maybe we should give the T-total a go. I was out for dinner last night and - celebratory music pliz - didn't drink a drop (HARDDDDD). Giving up tea and coffee = also HAAAAARD.

Sharon - great news on DS smile. The hgc shot - what exactly does it do? I wonder whether IUI is the next step (rather than straight into IVF) - but note that some people say ditch that step and jump to IVF (esp if limited amounts of cash!). But perhaps with the hgc shot you stand a greater chance - although I need to find out what that does exactly! [clearly clueless on IUI - maybe everyone has those shots?!)

Here's hoping that it all works out V SOON for all of us (then we'll celebrate in a year's time with a bucket of Champagne, ok shell smile )

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