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Parents should be forced to stay at home when their children are suspended from school

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Caligula Wed 20-Jul-05 09:18:50

Blair's latest big idea

He he he. This made me laugh.

When they say "parents", do they mean "mothers"?

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 09:28:22

Out of work, on benefits and then straight onto new deal for...parents. I'm confused.

What happened to encouraging women back into the workplace? Only ones with good kids? This is really going to help in the fight against poverty!

edam Wed 20-Jul-05 09:34:40

Another tabloid-headline chasing initiative. Don't think a man who feels poor on joint income of £100,000s a year has a clue what life is like for real people.

alux Wed 20-Jul-05 09:35:43

another laugh: parents will immediately invoke their 'rights' and threaten with the European Court of Human Rights

MascaraOHara Wed 20-Jul-05 09:37:28

hmmmmm what a fantastic idea! I've never heard anything better, misbehaving children have enough compassion to behave for the sake of their parents. I reckon he's on to a winner there you know.

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 09:39:30

They can sit on the naughty step all day

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 09:39:53

That'll learn 'em!

Caligula Wed 20-Jul-05 09:40:15

Can't Nanny put them on the naughty step as effectively as Mummy or Daddy?

LHP Wed 20-Jul-05 09:41:51

Put them all under house arrest, it's the only thing they'll understand

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 09:42:44

Nanny..granny..or Uncle Joe who calls the bingo numbers out?

hatstand Wed 20-Jul-05 09:45:02

ok I agree the whole thing sounds half-baked and utterly unworkable, but I kind of agree that there's no point in being excluded to hang around in shopping centres. And I also have a lot of time for the underlying principle - that children are the parents' responsibility.

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 09:46:07

There's an idea, LHP. JUst ship them all into secure accomodation or even prison - problem solved. Mother on day release to work in the co-op.

fqueenzebra Wed 20-Jul-05 09:48:20

am i the only one who doesn't think it's such a bad idea?

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 09:49:10

It's just a headline grabber like Edam said though Hatstand. There's no substance to it at all. If governments really want to tackle youth crime, etc they need to the long haul and concentrate on social equality and the so called 'fight against poverty'.

Caligula Wed 20-Jul-05 09:52:34

But hatstand, in every other area, the Blair govt are telling us that our main responsibility as parents is to go to work. Only when it comes to the children behaving badly, are they our responsibility. When they behave well, they're the responsibility of childminders, nannies, nurseries or after school clubs. We're not supposed to be looking after them, unless they've been suspended. Huh?

What next? Force parents to stay at home so that their children don't get suspended in the first place? Because that's the implication of this suggestion, imo.

hatstand Wed 20-Jul-05 09:52:58

I agree mt - I said it was half-baked. But I do think that there is a problem they have rightly identified (what exactly do exluded kids get up to?) and a principle that needs wide acknowledgment (kids are ultimately the responsibility of parents)

ScummyMummy Wed 20-Jul-05 09:55:40

Really ill thought through. Honestly. I despair at some of these social control ideas, I really do. How on earth could it help for parents to lose their jobs because they had to take time off to look after their badly behaved bananaheaded babies?

merglemergle Wed 20-Jul-05 09:55:50

So how would you go about getting time off for this? You have to give notice for parental leave, don't you? Would it come under compassionate leave (normally unpaid)?

How many men actually take time off when the kids are sick, if the mother works? Some, I'm sure, but most-no.

So yes, it will hit women harder IMO. Unless they plan to introduce "school exclusion leave".

Oooh, SUCH a good idea. Not.

Caligula Wed 20-Jul-05 09:56:45

"shoplifting leave"

"drugtaking leave"

"splitting up with boyfriend leave"

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 09:59:04

If that were the case then government should enable parents to do the job better.

You're right Caligula, no doubt someone will be calling for a return to the 'natural' laws of parenting, ie, mothers at home

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 10:00:10

Then there'll be 'painters in' leave.

monkeytrousers Wed 20-Jul-05 10:02:45

This is what the world in reverse motion looks like

ScummyMummy Wed 20-Jul-05 10:03:04

That is true, hatstand, and personally if/when one of my bananaheads is excluded I will take a day off to make his life hell! But the reality is that in many schools it's the same kids being excluded over and over for longer periods of time... IME kids who are truly trapped in a bad behaviour/exclusion cycle sometimes have no working parent anyway. But if there are working parents it makes no sense to me to increase the stress on the family by getting their parents sacked for seeming to take the p* with time off.

ScummyMummy Wed 20-Jul-05 10:03:36

lol Caligula!

fqueenzebra Wed 20-Jul-05 10:04:56

weren't they talking about fining parents at one point.. .would that be just as bad in youze all opinions?

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