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EXPLOSION ON MET LINE AT LIVERPOOL STREET STATION .......................... thread 3

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Hulababy Mon 11-Jul-05 10:02:54

To get this thread back on track...

as pointed out, the first names of those formally identified victims are starting to be released to the press.

Very sad

Thinking of all those affected.

emily05 Mon 11-Jul-05 10:05:36

Really sad There was another suicide bombing in Iraq at the weekend too. What is the world coming to. Do we know how the progress is at Kings x?

Marina Mon 11-Jul-05 10:10:48

Much better to concentrate on this, thanks Hula. Grim though it is.
Colleague who was stranded undeground near Aldgate East was in today for the first time. It was 10am before they knew what was really up, no panic, and all the smoke and debris blew in the opposite direction, so air quality was not too bad.
But he said the whole experience was deeply shocking, while knowing how very lucky he and his fellow passengers were in the scheme of things.
I think a lot of us (certainly in my workplace) actually feel worse about returning to work this morning, having trundled in almost without thinking on Friday.
I guess that is because of all the heartbreaking personal stories of missing family members now emerging. All those who are actually waiting for news of loved ones are so much in my thoughts, as are the recovery teams working under King's Cross in what must be utterly harrowing conditions.

HellKat Mon 11-Jul-05 10:24:31

Not sure if any of you have seen an email going around. It's from emergency services everywhere. Basically, it's asking people, in light of this tragedy, to store the letters I.C.E in their mobiles. It stands for In Case of Emergency. It makes it alot easier for loved one's to be contacted in the future. If you have more than one I.C.E then number it as I.C.E 1/2 etc. I received this mail from a friend and think it's a great idea as most of us don't put loved one's names as "emergency contact".
Here's thinking of the poor families involved and our thoughts and wishes are with them all.

ark Mon 11-Jul-05 10:25:21

couldn't agree more Marina, managed the tube on Friday and Sunday and then today it just felt hellish - I must have looked like I had a nervous twitch the amount of glancing around the carriage I did! Everybody was doing the same, mind you was much quieter today than normal. Can I just add I think the emergency services have been amazing as have the tfl staff.

hunkermunker Mon 11-Jul-05 10:30:40

My thoughts are with those who will hear devastating news in the near future

And with the emergency service workers who are in what can surely only be described as hell now, trying to recover those still missing and piece together what happened. They are truly amazing

RTKangaMummy Mon 11-Jul-05 11:12:13

There are still 61 people in hospital

The police want people to bring in a toothbrush or hairbrush for the DNA and photographs to help with idenification

Can you imagine how hard that would be?

I can't

I think that all of the workers are very brave

hunkermunker Mon 11-Jul-05 11:15:11

RTKM, it's times like this when I am very glad I didn't go into scenes of crime work - I did quite a bit of forensics at university and found it fascinating, but tragedies like this make me realise that I made the right choice. I wish I didn't know some of the things I do about the aftermath of this kind of disaster though

HappyMumof2 Mon 11-Jul-05 11:17:47

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hunkermunker Mon 11-Jul-05 11:19:02

I don't like it when they publish such details either, HMo2. Totally unnecessary - people can work out what's likely to be happening underground if they want to, and most people won't want to, so why put it in their faces?

lemonice Mon 11-Jul-05 11:19:04

I have just been very moved by a mother from Lagos whose son is missing, last made a call from a location need the scene of an explosion...I would like to express my sympathy to all those grieving at this time and to those who feel the burden of this tragedy...including emergency workers and survivors.

HappyMumof2 Mon 11-Jul-05 11:21:09

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HappyDaddy Mon 11-Jul-05 12:00:58

Happymumof2, i see what you mean about too much detail, but the authorities are being heavily criticised for working too slowly. I can't blame them for explaining the conditions they are trying to work under.

Blu Mon 11-Jul-05 12:01:20

Did anyone hear the witness acounts that said that women and girls were the ones that didn't panic?
Felt proud. In films women are always portrayed as victims to be rescued and re-assured by men.

puddle Mon 11-Jul-05 12:04:02

I think there are far too many details though about the nature of injuries - people describing in detail what had happened to those around them. I can't imagine how upsetting that must be if you are waiting for news - the last thing you want is to hear such awful stuff about a person's last moments and imagine that might be your loved one.

Marina Mon 11-Jul-05 12:04:06

Agree HappyDaddy. Tbh I don't think any of us starting to wonder about the delays at Kings X especially has a clue about the vileness of the conditions down there. It is a fine line, respecting the sensibilities of the poor families waiting for news, but I have not seen anything yet that made me feel they have crossed it in the media (although that could be to do with my choice of reading/viewing).

HappyMumof2 Mon 11-Jul-05 12:13:56

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Marina Mon 11-Jul-05 12:20:36

HM02, I do agree that kind of reporting is not helpful. That is a grim anecdote that cannot have helped anyone.

dyzzidi Mon 11-Jul-05 12:25:58

I have the utmost respect for the rescue workers for doing such a horrific job. My sympathies lie with the people who experiennce tragedies first hand, The deceased, the injured, the families,the people who attempt rescue and the recovery crews. I have no idea the emotions these people have been going through and am thankful of that.

The media will never be perfect but I think it is a very fine balancing act of giving information and holding back.

I personally think if my loved one were involved i would want as much information as possible but everyone is different. I hope the grieving families are given the chance to do what they think is best either deal with things privately or have their say publicly. Whatever helps them is fine with me.

lemonice Mon 11-Jul-05 12:38:09

I think there is a profound need to tell your story when you experience something like this, it is the telling and retelling and the listening which enables the grieving and recovery to take place.

This is true on the immediate scale of those most closely involved and traumatised and on the wider scale of the whole community and country.

It is through this creation of the story that we, as human beings, can come through such tragedies.

babyonboard Mon 11-Jul-05 14:40:42

I'm not so sure...when 9/11 happened we watched cnn and they made the whole thing like some kind of gross hollywood film..very insensitive, overly dramatic and graphic. i just wanted to see hhow the american stations put a spin on such events, and i have to say I was disgusted.
The bbdc have always been known for their fair, accurate and unbiased reporting with out the need for sensationalism, and I watched it all on thursday, being in london myslef and though they handled the matter very well.
There is of course the need for information, and understanding from the public when such a tragedy happens, but some stations will take it too far with graphic imagery and violence.

expatinscotland Mon 11-Jul-05 14:44:45

I don't think the press has given out 'too much detail'. They also haven't prettied it up - bombing people is not a nice thing to do. People get blown apart. That brings home the atrocity of it.

HappyMumof2 Mon 11-Jul-05 14:49:59

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expatinscotland Mon 11-Jul-05 14:51:44

Guess it's how you look at it. My uncle was murdered. They published details. It didn't hurt us. What hurt us is that he was dead. All the details in the world weren't going to bring him back. He died quickly, despite his injuries.

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