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monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 09:46:11

That's what they said on the BBC(ahem)news this morning anyway...Are we ready to give up our cars yet??????

misdee Tue 28-Jun-05 09:47:34

better makr\sure future genertions can swim then

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 09:53:07

Our great-great grandchildren!

Chandra Tue 28-Jun-05 09:54:05


P.S. If we stopped the production of all fumes fumes we will be baked by the sun in a few years time, have you heard of global dimming ?

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 09:54:43

How's it going misdee?

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 09:57:03

What does he mean 'unusually clear'? CAn he see the stars in the daytime?

Chandra Tue 28-Jun-05 09:59:35

Just imagine the way the day feels once the sun has come out after a very good snow drop, or a heavy shower.

Chandra Tue 28-Jun-05 10:03:03

here's the summary

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:03:56

I'm not qualified to make much sense of that but it seems to fit a pattern doesn't it?

I find it ironic that now the west is being increasingly affected action must be taken. I wonder how, when us in the west are being told to get on our bikes and go back to a simpler way of life those in India and China will just be embracing the wonders of Fordism. We can hardly tell them not too can we?

Chandra Tue 28-Jun-05 10:06:35

Well, it was the west who started the trend, no?

Convince the americans to stop using cars, or west industries to stop bringing their products to the east (products that many times are brough at the expense of destroying the culture of the place). And then we all be "fine"

handlemecarefully Tue 28-Jun-05 10:09:35

I'm afraid I do a head in the sand ostrich impression over cataclysmic predictions like this.

I'm not saying that I don't believe them or that they don't have credibility - just that I prefer not to think about it too much....

Because as individuals what can we really do that is any way meaningful or useful to curb environmental pollution? (other than the trivial - not leaving appliances on standby, recycling etc...all of which I do but it does seem rather pointless)

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:13:19

Just read the summary, Chandra.

Now we know how the dinosaurs felt.

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:22:12

We can only all try to do our little bit HMC. It all seems too far off for us to worry about yet when I think about it I get really worried for my son and his future family.

But if Labour passed a legislation that introduced a fossil fuel curfew there'd be a revolution!

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:25:24

You're right about it being our export Chandra. But I don't think it'd help much if the americans did all stop using their cars. It's a global problem not, sadly, an exclusively US one.

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:25:45

God, I'm talking to myself here

handlemecarefully Tue 28-Jun-05 10:31:54

Don't worry I do that all the time!

Don't you sometimes think that doing our little bit is rather futile unless your neighbour and his neighbour too are doing the same thing?

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:38:58

LOL. Ah, but then I'd have nothing to feel superior about...Aha! That's the spirit we all nedd to embracce to make it work! Eureka!

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:40:52

Oops, hope Burchill's not on centry duty today.

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:47:41

Actually, I know it's another thread but watching BB this morning seemed to present incontrovertible proof that we’re in the midst of an extinction event.

Maybe I'm just getting to be that age...

Chandra Tue 28-Jun-05 10:47:55

YEs everybody has cars not only the americans but a diference of most European cities in America you really need a car as sometimes there are not even pavement or public transport near home. Though I think they could do with more economic vahicles as well.

Packaging is the big no no IMO. Is not that there's a kind of packaging for every product, is that many products have a different pack according to the store in which they are going to be sold, and unfortunately most economic stores demand the cheapest and most ecologically unsafe packaging. However, I believe that we all have very "anti ecological" lives, and no amount of washable nappies would undo that

Chandra Tue 28-Jun-05 10:53:04

extinction event? I have already assumed that little by little we will make our life more difficult but I assume we will adapt to the changes though, as with everything related to extinction only the fittest will survive (those who had the economical means to adapt rather than those who can have the fittest bodies . IMO is already happening, actually the big drafts in Africa in the last decades are supossed to be effects of global dimming.

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 10:53:07

Washable nappies - great example. Why after we've just had a baby is it suddenly our sole responsibility to save the f'ing planet aswell?!

Like we don't already have enough on our plate!

Chandra Tue 28-Jun-05 10:56:27

Yes, we should let our offspringfertilise the soil with organic waste rather than polluting it with nappies and chemically produced composts

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 11:16:56

I'm a pessimistic pragmatist - (if there can be such a creature). Just bought Jared Diamond's new book - I was only a pragmatist before.

monkeytrousers Tue 28-Jun-05 12:35:59

Chandra, can I just ask how you paste an internet link onto the board?

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