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Middle classes 'turning to shoplifting to sustain their lifestyles'

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ABetaDad Tue 10-Nov-09 16:00:44

Interesting story in the Guardian and other newspapers that middle class people are responsible for an increase in shoplifting in order to maintain their lifestyles.

" .... items taken include "high end cheeses and meats" ? which he attributes to people stealing to maintain a quality of life they can no longer afford. "We are seeing more instances than before of amateur thieves stealing goods for their own personal use rather than to sell on."

It seems they are stealing 'nice ham'.

I have to say I am not convinced it is specifically the middle class but a general rise across the board.

WowOoo Tue 10-Nov-09 16:10:28

I shouldn't laugh but, your "nice ham" made me giggle.

I wouldn't dare do it myself. We buy nice ham far less frequently these days and have to make do with what I would call "crap ham".

Would not be happy were I a shop owner or manager.

ABetaDad Tue 10-Nov-09 16:30:20

I do remember a similar sort of news story from the early 1990s of well to do middle class women stealing high end lipsticks and mascara and justifying it to themselves by saying that the shops and manaufacturers had made so much in the 1980s boom years they deserved to get a loyalty bonus or a 2 for 1 offer in the downturn so it wasn't really stealing.

TBH it ties in with the 'lying to get into schools' thread as I do think there is always a fair bit of middle class dishonesty to make ends meet and keep up appearances. However, I think that it always has been and I don't think it has got any worse.

I guess, the story would not be quite so newsworthy if it had said 'poor people stealing to make ends meet'.

InterruptingKid Tue 10-Nov-09 16:31:23

OOH YES i so agree
out local * store is faing HUGE issues with large scale theft of Aberdeen Angus beef.

I have seen undercover cops in there

paisleyleaf Tue 10-Nov-09 16:33:01

I don't know why this bit made me laugh - but it did....
"These amateurs also tend to be caught by fairly basic security equipment"

Hullygully Tue 10-Nov-09 16:33:39

Yep, it's deffo true. I saw a woman in Boden being led out of my Sainsbury's the other day. She had a side of beef under Johnny's recommended.

LynetteScavo Tue 10-Nov-09 16:33:42

Well, Richard Madely started it with Champagne, didn't he.

LynetteScavo Tue 10-Nov-09 16:35:05

Maybe Johnnie himself will have to up the security in his shops.

Do they have tags on clothing in the Boden shops? I bet they don't atm.

Hullygully Tue 10-Nov-09 16:35:41

I swiped a couple of bottles of vintage cava meself.

SquirrelTrap Tue 10-Nov-09 16:36:36

My friend has developed a massive shop lifting habit. He does it for a thrill and also "because it is too easy"

He is v. middle class

shock

InterruptingKid Tue 10-Nov-09 16:36:54

Never nick in TK maxx - they always get folk armed wiht insulated freezer bags

also Debenhams - vg store detectives.

RubysReturn Tue 10-Nov-09 16:36:55

I have to confess to giggling at the security guards at the poundshop!

Hullygully Tue 10-Nov-09 16:38:57

Always better to create a diversion. Fill a trolley with nice ham and vintage cava, perhaps a bit of cheese, then get a friend to scream and hurl herself into the vegetables, while they're looking after her, run like billyo with the trolley. It's better if you have a car, bit awkward on the bus.

MaggieMonday Tue 10-Nov-09 16:39:33

Well, I didn't do it to 'maintain' a lifestyle but.......

I used to rob things occasionally when I was in an abusive relationship. I lived on a lovely tree-lined road where the victorian houses cost more than half a million, and I was robbing things I didn't need. My x was a 'professional', my parents are stalwarts of their parish! lol, I went to private school and play several musical instruments.. Words simply can't describe how ashamed I would have been if I'd been caught.

Now I live on benefits and I never rob anything. I think I was quietly going a bit insane at the time.

I've never confessed that before, even on line.

WowOoo Tue 10-Nov-09 16:40:54

grin Hullygully grin

RubysReturn Tue 10-Nov-09 16:40:57

I think that does show shoplifting is one of those things that women do wehn madly stressed - like self harming sad.

Better that than cutting I guess

Hullygully Tue 10-Nov-09 16:41:09

Oh those glorious days at Foyles..buy one take two free..

MaggieMonday Tue 10-Nov-09 16:54:09

RubysReturn, that is very true... it was obviously something spilling over. I felt so crushed and so defeated, that even just taking a risk reminded me I was alive. Maybe it was some subliminal way of trying to force change to happen to me, as I was too scared to make it happen.

I don't really know tbh, but it shocks me now to sit here and admit that I was a thief. I did it more than once. I lost count.

InterruptingKid Tue 10-Nov-09 16:55:33

you often get newly bereaved folk nicking

RubysReturn Tue 10-Nov-09 16:56:26

Oh you need to forgive yourself for that. Sounds like an abberration.

I think there is a lot of truth in that when men hurt they lash out, when women hurt, they hurt themselves - in that case tyring to get punished.

go on - forgive yourself out loud!

HerBoomWhizzBangitude Tue 10-Nov-09 16:58:12

LOL at nicking ham.

They should just sneak into Lidl or Aldi, where the Ocado standard ham is cheap and affordable.

Hassled Tue 10-Nov-09 17:05:45

I thought Middle Class Austerity was where we are these days - lots of people called Jonty growing their own/boasting about their charity shop purchases etc.

MaggieLaVoleuse Tue 10-Nov-09 17:11:17

Thanks Ruby! I forgive myself now..

ABetaDad Tue 10-Nov-09 17:11:52

My Grandma knew a Polish (Jewsih) woman who had survived tehe concentration camps. She shoplifted all of her later life as a reaction to the deprevation of that experience and her guilt at surviving.

MaggieLaVoleuse Tue 10-Nov-09 17:16:44

Wow. It's an interesting subject. I hope my new screen name doesn't seem like I view it flippantly. Changed it without really thinking. I'll change it again in a mo.

Also interesting about the newly bereaved sometimes doing it.

Is it the risk? the exhilaration lifts you briefly /?

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