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The Tories are gonna get in, it's inevitable do you care? Is there an upside?

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TheDullWitch · 07/10/2009 17:19

Oh why not have the election NOW. Let the buggers get in, show their true colours, become universally loathed, then get kicked out after one term. Come on, let's get on with it!

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HolyBumoley · 07/10/2009 17:22

How many up-sides do you want to seeing the back of this government? It will presumably go down in history as one of the worst governments of all time. I welcome the Conservatives with open arms, and hope they stay in for a whole lot longer than this lot.

(Though 'tis true that being universally loathed is the fate of all governments).

As you say, let's get on with it. God, I will be cracking open the champagne.

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madwomanintheattic · 07/10/2009 17:24

i'm looking forward to richard dannatt getting a seat. at last someone who has a grip on reality.

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claricebeansmum · 07/10/2009 17:24

Surely a change has got to be as good as a rest after this lot.

They interfere unceasingly in education, health, local government, our lives.

I just want them to go away. I think I may have voted for Blair first time around but I am not struggling to think of a single thing that this government has done that I consider to be good or worthwhile...

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sassy · 07/10/2009 17:27

Hate the prospect. Can't help thinking that once David "Caring" Cameron gets in, he will nip into the nearest phone box and emerge dressed at maggie T. He is much more right-wing than he appears, IMO.

That said, Gordon just can't continue. There never was a lamer duck.

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expatinscotland · 07/10/2009 17:32

I care! So I'm not voting for them. And no, I don't see an upside to their getting in.

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cazboldy · 07/10/2009 17:34

he has promised to look at changing the foxhunting laws

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sarah293 · 07/10/2009 17:35

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madwomanintheattic · 07/10/2009 17:38

not sure, riv. spoke to him at a local thing last year and he talks the talk. interesting to see if he walks the walk.
he's been on the edges of the system long enough to understand some of the issues, even if his own income has buffered the necessity to be personally engaged...

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sarah293 · 07/10/2009 17:42

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liath · 07/10/2009 17:45

If they get in then I may well vote for Scottish independance - not something I'd ever have contemplated before.

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jcscot · 07/10/2009 17:45

madwoman - I vote we push for Joanna Lumley and Richard Dannat to get into the cabinet!

I really hope the conservatives get in because I think they will look seriously as the coutryside issues, and I think they change the current defence policy (which, to be honest, cannot get any worse!) to properly support the Forces.

Most of our friends (and us!) have been hoping for a Tory govt for years.

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sarah293 · 07/10/2009 17:50

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madwomanintheattic · 07/10/2009 17:54

joanna lumley just makes me laugh though. all that blonde hair and teeth and managing to totally outmanouevre the lot of them by fluttering her eyelashes. she's not daft, lol, tis just a pity for the poor old chaps that they can't quite see it. (un)thinking man's totty lol.

riven - i know what you mean. actions speak louder than words - twill be interesting to see what he makes of it.

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atlantis · 07/10/2009 18:22

Well the conservatives won last time, at least they had more votes, it's just Labour had shifted all the boundries and doo-daa's so they could keep their greedy little selves in power .

Will they win this time... YES !!!!!

As long as people do not split the vote by voting for ukip and alike.

I think the people around the country are very angry about a wealth of things but the main topic on the doorstep is the eu treaty, they want the vote and Labour wont give it to them (booooo), it's the main topic of conversation, if they held a referendum now all bets would be off. (not the promise of one either like last time).

Labour really have no clue what the people of this country want.

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ABetaDad · 07/10/2009 20:35

atlantis - a very interesting comment indeed. How do you know that? Are you a party worker?

I would have thought the economy but thinking about it, I do wonder in Labour areas if the EU, immigration and so on is proxy for people feelng less well off and blaming 'foriners'?

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Pixel · 07/10/2009 20:37

Of course there's an upside, we can get rid of this bunch of incompetent, dishonest scumbags. It's just a shame we have to have an election and not a firing squad.

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HumphreyCobbler · 07/10/2009 20:42

The upside for me is that I will be voting for them.

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EldonAve · 07/10/2009 20:45

I think the upside will hopefully be a reduced state in size and cost

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Concordia · 07/10/2009 20:46

I can't see any upsides to the tories getting in as they will cut everything(health and education will go down the pan again just as my boy is starting school, more babies will die from lack of midwives etc etc) while being nice to anyone earning over £100k because obviously they are more worthy than the rest of us.

But i can't stand labour either. Gordon Brown has to be the most dishonest man alive. Does he think we are totally stupid to believe his lies?

There isn't an upside to either.

I want to emigrate, or form an independent government of the only good ones in there like Vince Cable as Chancellor and Clare Short as Foreign Secretary. Can't think of any other good ones, so it'd be a pretty small government.

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Concordia · 07/10/2009 20:49

No i correct that. Actually i think Gordon Brown is (slightly) less dishonest than Tony Blair. It's just that i was trying to forget that Blair existed.

I still wouldn't vote Tory though.

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Concordia · 07/10/2009 20:51

Surely Obama wouldn't do any worse. Perhaps being the 51st state would be preferable?
ok, perhaps not, but feeling very about the state of things in the UK

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HerHonesty · 07/10/2009 20:54

atlantis i think you will find that the tories are as guilty as sin when it comes to changing boundaries. and several MPs ditched their seats in 1996 for favour of safer ones.....more commonly known as the chicken run.

upsides? well at least it will show them up for what the tories really are. and like op says, in for a term, out for another two or three or even four.

I'm bloody lucky. i can afford care for my father who has alzheimers, private education for my children, PMI so i dont have to really on the NHS..... but i still would never, ever, vote for a party which traditionally has underinvested in every single part of the welfare state to the point they were at their knees. doesnt anyone remember what the nhs was like in 1997?

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SqueezyCheesyPumpkin · 07/10/2009 20:54

I'm glad I live in Scotland TBH. Cameron is less popular here than Margaret Thatcher was and that's saying something.

It's been said that a lot of the Tory vote will come from the fact that there is no real viable opposition to the Labour that everyone is so sick of.

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pinknosedevereux · 07/10/2009 20:57

had'nt realised I'd wandered into such a nest of tories.

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Wigeon · 07/10/2009 20:57

[civil servant takes impartiality hat off in an anonymous forum] Claricebeansmum: here are a few things you might consider to be good or worthwhile:

Labour achievements

For me personally, the things which spring immediately to mind are: big steps in various equality issues, including gender equality and gay rights, more paid maternity leave, right to request flexible working, huge investment in education and NHS, minimum wage.

[puts impartiality hat back on and goes back to work]

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