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donated organs going to foreigners

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southeastastra Sun 25-Jan-09 20:51:50

is this really true? read an article today

twinsetandpearls Sun 25-Jan-09 20:52:54

Was it the Mail on Sunday by any chance?

scifinerd Sun 25-Jan-09 20:53:13

I didn't realise donating organs should be restricted to one group of people? What's wrong with that. A person is a person and if they need an organ they need an organ.

southeastastra Sun 25-Jan-09 20:53:15

no telegraph will find a link

southeastastra Sun 25-Jan-09 20:53:48

there is alot wrong with that if people are flying in to take advantage scifnerd

Tinker Sun 25-Jan-09 20:55:11

Have you got more details of all of these very ill people flying in to grab all our organs?

HecateQueenOfGhosts Sun 25-Jan-09 20:56:14

Yes. I read about it.

I have no problem with it IF there is nobody compatible in the country and the organs would otherwise not be used. but I think priority should be (and probably is) given to people on the waiting list who permenantly reside in the UK.

twinsetandpearls Sun 25-Jan-09 20:57:35

it may have originated in the mail no great surprise

AbricotsSecs Sun 25-Jan-09 20:58:35

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southeastastra Sun 25-Jan-09 20:58:37

here

oxocube Sun 25-Jan-09 20:59:55

My MIL has a thing about this - 'bloody scandalous' she said. She has refused to be an organ donor lest her bits end up inside 'some foreigner' hmm Couldn't give a monkeys, personally. Would be happy if my organs could help anyone, regardless of nationality. And as I'd be dead anyway, I'd never know smile

twinsetandpearls Sun 25-Jan-09 21:00:35

They will be having our steak next grin

twinsetandpearls Sun 25-Jan-09 21:01:28

" I carry part of an Englishman inside me, so that will for ever keep me close to that country"

A statement you need to be careful making in public

mrsruffallo Sun 25-Jan-09 21:01:52

There is a serious shortage of organs here, and it is unfair to Brits who have been waiting a long time.

twinsetandpearls Sun 25-Jan-09 21:03:33

Have not read the whole article carefully as I am on a quick break but if we have to share our organs across the EU are our patients not entitled to EU donations?

ruddynorah Sun 25-Jan-09 21:05:17

those articles hardly make sense.

the greek is an eu citizen so therefore entitled to nhs care same as any eu citizen.

the patients outside the eu, it says, only get surplus organs. organs can't just be donated to anyone, they have to have a match right? so if no match they go to overseas patients who have to pay for the care they receive because they are not eu citizens so do not get free nhs care.

i don't see what the problem is tbh.

but then i'm an immigrant so what would i know. though i haven't nicked any of your british organs so far...

Hulababy Sun 25-Jan-09 21:05:41

If there is no suitable receipients residing on the UK, on the UK waiting lists - then I can;t see the problem.

But I do think the organs ought to be given to those most in need, from the UK waiting lists first, above those paying privately to come over from other countries in order to bypass their own country's organ donation systems.

The articles do seem designed to be inflammatory though. I imagine those organs donated to non-UK residients went to them as they could not be used for patients on the waiting lists.

I really hope that such articles do not prevent potential donators from donating in the future.

twinsetandpearls Sun 25-Jan-09 21:06:25

ruddynorah would you not like a part of an englishman inside of you whereever you go? wink

plantsitter Sun 25-Jan-09 21:07:01

Actually I find this bit - 'The rest went to people from countries outside the EU - livers can be given to non-Europeans only if they are deemed to be not of good enough quality for British patients' more shocking than the rest of it.

If an organ saves someone's life, great. It is a bit rubbish for the NHS to prioritise paying patients, if that's really what they're doing though.

twinsetandpearls Sun 25-Jan-09 21:07:20

I agree Hula we need more donors not less.

Piffle Sun 25-Jan-09 21:11:07

Surely other countries have exactly the same issue?
Swings and roundabouts
Do unto others
My organs go to whoever can use them regardless of nationality
Need determines distribution surely

nkf Sun 25-Jan-09 21:12:14

Jobs. Women. Benefits. Kidneys. Pah!

ruddynorah Sun 25-Jan-09 21:13:57

well i have nicked one of your fine british men for a husband you know..

southeastastra Sun 25-Jan-09 21:14:36

i may sound heartless but i'd rather my organs went to uk nationals first

Wonderstuff Sun 25-Jan-09 21:15:31

I feel this is a case of journalists and politicians over simplifying an issue to get a headline shock Matching organs to patients is complex and it isn't the case that people outside the UK are getting organs that could have gone to UK patients, why would the NHS do that? Dont read the Mail, tis full of crap!

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