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Sad sad story in today's Guardian

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dinosaur Thu 17-Mar-05 10:02:41

sad sad story

This is a story of a birth that went horribly wrong. It is so sad - I was in tears on the bus this morning reading it.

Toothache Thu 17-Mar-05 10:12:53

Good god I shouldn't have read that at work.

coppertop Thu 17-Mar-05 10:16:29

flashingnose Thu 17-Mar-05 10:18:34

Tragic

NomDePlume Thu 17-Mar-05 10:20:31

Horrific

aloha Thu 17-Mar-05 10:22:26

God that chills me to the bone. I am in tears. I was a previous cs left to labour (with no progress either) all alone in the dark with no care and no monitoring. It's so disgusting and so common. That could have happened to me. Nobody cared. Thank God I was down for a section beforehand and my dh really pushed for me to get it. I feel quite sick for this poor, poor couple.

hoxtonchick Thu 17-Mar-05 10:25:37

oh god how awful

bundle Thu 17-Mar-05 10:26:16

i had a trial of labour too, but strict limits put on time (6 hrs total) and was never left alone and had 2nd c/s. those poor people, what a bleak story.

kama Thu 17-Mar-05 10:30:13

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Prettybird Thu 17-Mar-05 10:59:54

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Titania Thu 17-Mar-05 11:00:15

swedishmum Thu 17-Mar-05 12:12:23

What a tragic story. I was lucky with my normal delivery after a c section. I was induced and monitored carefully, and agreed with consultant that I could opt for c section if I felt distressed (had it in writing beforehand). Of course, that was assuming NHS had enough staff...Is it normal for private midwives to be happy about home deliveries following cs? I certainly know that having researched the risks I felt hospital was the only safe place to be.

JulieF Thu 17-Mar-05 14:02:37

A few points about this story. It seems to me that the main problem was the syntocinon drip that she had to augment her labour in hospital. Whilst she was a at home her contractions stopped and her independant midwife realised there was something wrong. The hospital should have realsied this after thier monitoring. You should NEVER have syntocinon after having a previous c/s due to the risk of scar rupture.

This poor lady has been sadly failed. Not by her planning to have her baby at home, but by what happened once she arrived at the hospital.

Caligula Thu 17-Mar-05 14:16:36

Unbearably sad.

Yes why don't we have riots in the streets about the NHS?

expatinscotland Thu 17-Mar-05 14:18:33

I'm amazed they were able to save her uterus. That poor family!

Chandra Thu 17-Mar-05 14:54:08

Too familiar in my opinion. My labour with DS was a disaster, whenever I have told a gyn, paed or obstetrician about how long the staff in the NHS waited to help DS out even when the signals of the problem were there, they are horrified, they can not understand they made us wait for more than 18 hours when the baby should have been taken out in less than 6. . Going private in the UK is also a nightmare, I have been trying to take DS to an allergician (privately) for almost a month now, and I have been told by the GP that the appointment, even if private, would take at least 8 weeks, can't really understand it... in the past we have taken a plane out of the country just to have him seen by a specialist, I would have never expected from a first world country. Having said that, I would never expect that from my third world country...

nnosam Thu 17-Mar-05 14:55:51

how sad, the poor family.

kama Thu 17-Mar-05 15:00:36

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Pruni Thu 17-Mar-05 15:04:15

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hatsoff Thu 17-Mar-05 16:56:32

I just came on the computer to post about this. The guy has a really good point - everyone here on mn knows a similar story, or at least horrid stories with happy endings (iyswim) - so how come Brits take to the streets in their thousands about fox hunting but we tolerate this???? He's right to be stunned, he's right to point out that we're one the richest countries in the world and yet we have a system where this happens, all too often.

lunavix Thu 17-Mar-05 17:05:13



It reminds me of how easily it could happen.

When I was pregnant with ds, about 36/38 weeks, I suddenly got huge strong pains and started projectile vomiting and almost passing out. The hospital told us to speed there as it could be an emergency and I had to be checked over immediately - and when I got there we sat in the waiting room for four hours. Some emergency.

lockets Thu 17-Mar-05 17:12:25

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psychomum5 Thu 17-Mar-05 17:17:39

Thats so so tragic.

Why why why do we still allow this type of tragedy.....

Yorkiegirl Thu 17-Mar-05 17:24:31

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Chandra Thu 17-Mar-05 17:26:34

hatsoff, I really wonder about the same not only terms of the NHS, but the petrol prices, the disastrous scheemes for residents my city organises, etc. I wonder why the English public is so patient some times.

A few days ago I was wondering if I should get my DS to the vet instead to the GP. My dog has apparently a food allergy suspected since 3 weeks ago, she has had already several tests and is already in an allergen controlled diet.

More or less at the same time DS has a reaction to peanuts, GP told me they will refer him but will take several weeks, have requested referal to go private and they have told me the same but still can't find an allergician who could do the tests, we have been told to deal with it as if we were sure DS has a nut allergy, so we are having a problem learning in our own what things he should not eat, no instruction whatsoever from the NHS. We are told to be extremely careful but not about what, and no epi-pen given in case he has an extreme allergic reaction. We are being told that they can't really test him until he is 5 yrs old (he is 2 now) and until he is properly diagnosed we don't have access to an epi-pen .

I won't complain much about the "free" NHS service but I have been trying to go private for some weeks and passing through the referal process (which need to be done by a NHS GP) is taking a RIDICULOUS amount of time. The breaking point was today, when my vet suggested a food intolerancies test for our dog that costs the same and is made by the same laboratory as the one for children I have been trying to convince the GP my son would benefit to have, even when I'm telling him I will pay for the expense and the test has a very good reputation in the medical world, he would not aprove. I have just bypassed the GP and rang the lab directly.

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