Sarah Brown going on stage first at the Labour conference and Gordon's dreadfulness

[chipmunkswhereareyou]

I nearly just barfed at Sarah Brown going on stage first and presenting her own husband. YUKKKKKKK!!!

And then Gordon is just awful. Plain awful.

[stickybun]

I thought she came across very well considering - but you've got to feel sorry for her haven't you? Do you think we should all go in for this helicopter-spousing thing? Like if Mr Stickybun has an important presentation to do to a client company should I do a little turn first???I could hardly watch out of mortification. Think the conference crowd loved his speech but for me that doesn't affect my view of what he's done to the economy - gold, pensions, PFI and the fact that despite what he's saying now, in 2005 he made a big speech at Canary Wharf saying how he was going to do away with unecessary regulation etc..Still at least I don't wake up next to him every morning. What a thought

[edam]

Oh, I know, beyond parody, really. A PM so bad that he can't even make a speech without sending wifie out first to wave the white flag!

What on earth Lloyd George, or Keir Hardie, or Nye Bevan would have made of it...

[expatinscotland]

i'm so glad i missed that.

i'd have actually had some respect had he got up there and said, 'you're right, folks. game over.'

[MintChocAddict]

Thought he did well and am also a bit of a fan of Sarah Brown. Actually!!!

[expatinscotland]

she looks like a cow.

and apparently, according to one of the more well-known MNers, she is .

[platypussy]

Why oh why do the wives have to be so high profile these days? They never used to be.

[Aitch]

ah, the brown-haters.

i think she seems nice and thought he made a good speech.

[edam]

She does seem nice but it's a terrible admission that poor little Gordy isn't able to cope all on his own.

Bloody hell, I can't imagine what my late boss, a friend of his from childhood, would have made of it. Actually, I suspect she would have booted his behind and said 'get on with it, you big jessie'.

[expatinscotland]

Aitch, you are blinded by your lust for him.

You must seek professional attention immediately for this.

There is a cure for permanent beer goggles .

[MintChocAddict]

The man has been lined up to fail from day one. IMHO Gordon Brown has been unfortunate enough to follow the madness of the Tony and Cheree show, and has come into the job during a world wide recession. The anti-Brown media have an awful lot to answer for.
I've got an idea - let's call an election and vote David Cameron in. That'll solve everything.

[expatinscotland]

But at the same time, Brown's not exactly Kerry Katona or Jade Goody. He's no idiot, and he doesn't strike me as someone easily led or who falls for something easily. The word thrawn springs to mind.

He seems to have morphed into the personification of the adage, 'Be careful what you wish for.'

[MrsThierryHenry]

If I hear one more politician using that hackneyed phrase 'hard-working families' I'm going to combust. Gordy may be bright but if he thinks that trotting out that old chestnut (as he did tonight) is going to suddenly cause a Mexican wave of popularity in his favour, he can't have much in the way of emotional intelligence.

Hmmm. I'm asking for his Emotional Intelligence when he can barely show an emotion?

Mintchoc, he must be very grateful for people like you who are so generous to him! He doesn't deserve it IMO!

[MrsThierryHenry]

Expat, you nailed it in one. You clever girl.

[MintChocAddict]

Thrawn is one of my mum's fave words Expat.
The Boy Milliband wouldn't instill much confidence in me TBH. Trying too hard IMO. And I think Gordy should deal swiftly with those who are disloyal in order to show his strength.
Unrelated, but was very at Lib Dem leader and his complete lack of awareness of State Pension payments. Bit of a big issue to get so badly wrong.

[MrsThierryHenry]

Miliband must be, what, 12? 13? Slightly younger than Cameron, right? Which must put Clegg in the sixth form?

What a choice we have. Where is the Amazing Mrs Pritchard when you need her?

[MintChocAddict]

I don't think I'm being particularly generous Mrs TH. I have just always admired his principles and have a strong feeling that he is a thoroughly decent individual. He seems to have a genuine passion for politics and not for the perks that go with it. I agree that he should have called an election and not to have done so was a big error, but I genuinely feel he needs more time to prove his worth.
He's never going to be an all singing all dancing PM. He'll always be a bit dour and straight, but why is that such a bad thing? And no I'm not Sarah Brown.

[DaisySteiner]

Boy Miliband reminds me of a black labrador - cute, eager to please, but inclined to get over-excited.

Preferable to Brown though IMHO.

[1dilemma]

Agree he got dumped in it big time by our Tone and Cherry, I almost feel sorry for him about that!

However generally I'm more along the stickybun line (except didn't watch speach!)

[MrsThierryHenry]

But Minty, you are being ever so jolly kind to him! I don't doubt that he's all of those things you've said. Had you asked me this time last year I'd have said that I felt sorry for him, having had foot + mouth, massive flooding and (something else major...can't recall what) all dumped on him within his first 6 months in office. I was on his side back then.

Now he's been in the job for 15 months and has proved that he's simply not capable of doing a good job as PM. Just a few of his screw-ups (really silly mistakes about which someone at his level should know better): the 10p rate of tax, the Met police pay rise, chickening out of the election - these all demonstrate clearly that he simply has no people nous. I can't believe that his whole cabinet is as incompetent at decision-making as it appears; from what I hear he's quite a bully when he wants to be and so it seems that he has most likely leaned on them to push through his silly ideas. IMO he has proven that he is not a suitable candidate to lead the hardworking families of this country (aaaaaaagggggghhhh!!! ).

[MintChocAddict]

LOL at Hardworking families MrsTH. Obviously hit a nerve. .
We'll need to agree to differ. I feel that he should be given more to time to correct mistakes that have been made and to show the country what's he's really made of. Maybe I'll be sorely disappointed but I genuinely hope I'm not.
And I pray that people don't have short memories when it comes to the next election.

[mrsruffallo]

Can't jump on the media induced Brown hating bandwagon.
I like him, and his wife.
I thought his speech was great

[MissMarpleTastic]

I like them, both, a lot.

I loved Blair though, and think he was a much better people person. IMO Brown had a tough job to step into his shoes.

Tony Blair was like Marmite, Gordon Brown more like Marmalade.

[Upwind]

missed the speech, though I hear it was like last year's

did he repeat his mantra of "no more boom and bust" again?