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odd one from oz,female stripper accused of raping the best man.

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mayorquimby Mon 08-Sep-08 10:44:13

www.smh.com.au/news/national/best-man-ms-naggs-and-an-unspeakable-act/2008/09/08/1220725927054.html

story in link.

allegedly violated the best man during a stag routine with a sex toy.

will be interesting to see how the case pans out.

NomDePlume Mon 08-Sep-08 10:47:10

how awful shock

Poor bloke.

Stripper sounds deranged

Callisto Mon 08-Sep-08 10:54:11

How utterly sordid from start to finish.

mayorquimby Mon 08-Sep-08 10:57:38

agree.
but i'd imagine that there will be the same line of argument used in most rape cases.
i.e. where they would normally bring up how much a woman had to drink/past sexual history.
for this case the defence will probably argue that participation in a sex show granted implied consent.

feel terrible for the guy if true, but am interested to see how the role reversal will play out in a common law court and how jurors will react to a case that is female on male rape.

BigGitDad Mon 08-Sep-08 11:08:35

I wonder if she was pissed off with some of the guys and thought she'd get her own back?grin This is a story and a half! I am amazed really from all aspects. Only in Australia mabe? God, I would not want to be in a room with a bunch of drunken Aussies!

cheesesarnie Mon 08-Sep-08 11:10:42

agree with ' am interested to see how the role reversal will play out in a common law court and how jurors will react to a case that is female on male rape. '

TheArmadillo Mon 08-Sep-08 11:12:29

that's really awful.
Poor guy.

though it will be interesting to see what happens compared to a female victim rape case.

Apparently most men refuse to report cases of rape because of shame and societal views on it - more than the number of women who refuse to report it.

BigGitDad Mon 08-Sep-08 11:15:05

I wonder if this has come about since he is getting a hard time from his mates about the incident and he feels this is the only way he can save face?
Obviously I agree he has been violated.

ParCark Mon 08-Sep-08 11:17:15

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mayorquimby Mon 08-Sep-08 11:22:04

"I wonder if she was pissed off with some of the guys and thought she'd get her own back? grin"

see this is another aspect that i'm very interested to see how people react. i can imagine this becoming one of those e-mails that gets aroud all the offices as a joke. and am wondering how it will be viewed, as i think it's inevitable that a large portion of soceity will find this story slightly amusing. i mean if we're honest if it was told as an urban legend "bunch of drunk stags getting rowdy and a bit too boisterous at a party, stripper who's had enough decides to get cheeky revenge with a dildo" it would be the kind of thing that people would pass on as an amusing urban legend.
but the fact that this is a real case, i'll be very interested to see how many people think that rape is an ok thing to joke about when it is a woman doing it to a man, as has bee seen in the past when odd stories of women assauling men have come out.i remember one where a russian woman set fire to her husband penis that many women on this site found it fine to joke about.

"I wonder if this has come about since he is getting a hard time from his mates about the incident and he feels this is the only way he can save face?"

i also thought this when i first saw it, but by his account of the story he reacted immediately.

Chequers Mon 08-Sep-08 11:24:18

Horrendous. Poor, poor guy.

TheDuchessOfNork Mon 08-Sep-08 13:12:34

he was asking for it

<gavel>

mayorquimby Mon 08-Sep-08 13:57:18

"he was asking for it

<gavel>"

hmm

see what i mean.
joking or not, i know exactly what kind of response this would get on a thread regarding the alleged rape of a woman.

NomDePlume Mon 08-Sep-08 14:00:30

shock @ duchess.

Not nice.

jamescagney Mon 08-Sep-08 14:02:42

I agree mayor, I think TheDuchess was quite baldly echoing what many may think of the legal system's handling of rape cases.
Poor guy how awful for him and his family..

Vian Mon 08-Sep-08 15:26:30

Oh wow. I hope the deense lawyers rip into him based on how he was dressed and how much alcohol he had. I hope they imply that he wanted it and secretly enjoyed it. It's only fair since that is what they do to female rape victims.

BigGitDad Mon 08-Sep-08 15:30:45

Well if you are bent over with no pants on and the girl is behind you with a strap on then what do you think is going to happen? The guy in my opinion is pretty stupid at putting himelf in that position.(AIW)Who would ever put themselves in that situation?

Vian Mon 08-Sep-08 15:35:35

Okay I'll bite. Jesus christ i don't believe I am going to say this. Just because someone puts themself in a bad situation doesn't mean they deserve to be violated.

NomDePlume Mon 08-Sep-08 15:38:10

I suppose BGD, that he thought she was only going to simulate sex with him, not actually penetrate.

Same as if I went to a chippendales (or whatever) show and they were thrusting in crotch in my face, I would not think that I was expected to suck him off !

NomDePlume Mon 08-Sep-08 15:39:10

(can I say 'suck him off' on here ?)

Tortington Mon 08-Sep-08 15:41:03

BGD - you can say that of countless women " she was stupid to be in that position" ..drunk....drugged up...alone walking home......practially wearing nothing.......

it doesn't excuse penetration without permission. on either sex.

feel really sorry for the guy actually - and think he must be exceptionally brave and strong to take this further considing the publicity it was boung to attract.

hecate Mon 08-Sep-08 15:49:05

poor man, how humiliating, not to mention painful for him. She had no right to do what she did to him. I hope she doesn't get away with it.

Let's switch it round and say that it was a hen night, and a group of women had a male stripper. And one woman was on stage with him, rubbing him with baby oil and messing about, all her mates yelling, her laughing and then all of a sudden, the male stripper bent her double, whipped down her pants and shoved a dildo up her fanny.

I think I can say with a reasonable amount of certainty what the posts on here would be saying about that, and how it would be viewed by the courts.

Yet again, because it's a man, it doesn't seem to matter as much.

mamadiva Mon 08-Sep-08 15:56:34

I am shocked by a few, one or two, posts on here saying he deserved it or similair, if it was a woman everyone would be screaming that he's a bastard and a pervert etc yet becuause it's a man it's justa case of oh well it was all a joke!!! Hypocrites! I'm glad to see though that mainly people are being just as sympathetic.

Poor guy lock her up and leave her there just like they would do to a man!

sprogger Mon 08-Sep-08 15:59:30

I agree he's been violated, and that it must have been pretty awful for him. It's good that he's being brave enough to bring charges against her.

I have to say though, I suspect it's too much to expect that there might be a bit of thoughtful media analysis of the whole situation he was in. He volunteered to "perform" with the stripper because the groom refused to (so there's a hint that although she was "for the groom," no-one bothered to ask the groom what he wanted at his party) and because the other men were shouting out for a show (so there's another layer of coercion).

There can be a strange, ugly undercurrent to some stag parties. The stripper's assault almost sounds like an extreme extension of an already non-consensual environment. Yes, what she did to him was horrible, but the other blokes were pretty happy to see him humiliated in the groom's place.

BigGitDad Mon 08-Sep-08 16:42:14

Not saying at all that the guy deserved it, not at all and he does have my sympathy but you would not catch me in that situation ever. Why do people put themselves in that situation which is my point.
Custardo you are right he is brave to be going through this but I would love to know the full story behind this. all we are getting is a few reported facts.

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