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wow. im surprised at this verdict

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nailpolish Tue 11-Sep-07 14:57:45


ScoobyDooooo Tue 11-Sep-07 14:58:44

I was actually surprised at the verdict of this to, such a sad sad tragedy sad

Tottie32 Tue 11-Sep-07 14:59:53

poor poor girl....

surprised to

Twiglett Tue 11-Sep-07 15:00:34

I think that points to the HUGE DIFFERENCE between

trial by jury


trial by media

oliveoil Tue 11-Sep-07 15:02:00

well the woman has a life sentence anyway doesn't she so what is the point of jailing her?

what have the girl's parents said about it?

nailpolish Tue 11-Sep-07 15:02:08

its so sad
i have thought a lot about this family

nailpolish Tue 11-Sep-07 15:02:49

it doesnt say waht the parents of the wee girl are sying does it?
there is probably nothing to say

oliveoil Tue 11-Sep-07 15:03:33

no, I just wondered if they agreed with the verdict or not

nailpolish Tue 11-Sep-07 15:08:25

i dont know olive

MrsMarvel Tue 11-Sep-07 15:10:34

I think the parents actually brought the case against the grandmother at first, that explains why the judge questioned that the CPS should prosecute Kiel Simpson (the uncle).

tigerschick Tue 11-Sep-07 15:12:10

The mother of the little girl said that she had always been scared of the dog.
Agree that the grandmother has got a life sentence anyway, and she is not a danger to society.
Very sad story from start to finish.

SleeplessInTheStaceym11House Tue 11-Sep-07 15:15:17

sad sad sad, i feel for this little girls family.. sad

Pruners Tue 11-Sep-07 15:15:43

Message withdrawn

nailpolish Tue 11-Sep-07 15:15:59

i do seem to recall the girls father blaming the grandmother (his MIL)

biglips Tue 11-Sep-07 15:16:25

very tragic!! sad

nailpolish Tue 11-Sep-07 15:16:28

why folk have these dogs is beyond me

LIZS Tue 11-Sep-07 15:22:48

I just saw this . Am taken about that such a breach of duty of care cannot amount to any criminal conviction. Hope they can live with themselves Poor Ellie. RIP

EffiePerine Tue 11-Sep-07 15:25:00

Court comes to decison over guilt of defendent. Who'd have thunk it?

Thelittlesoldiersmummy Tue 11-Sep-07 15:29:38

I read the court notes of the Mum of the little girl she had said that she did not blame her mother and didnt want her mother punished they must take that into account. This was a tragic accident (that could have been prevented) but still an accident. Is it fair to punish the little girls mother twice by taking away her beloved daughter and then her mother also. It is a very sad event

southeastastra Tue 11-Sep-07 15:31:45

another thread here.

are you seriously saying it was an accident?!

cardy Tue 11-Sep-07 15:51:21

Radio news said that the father stormed out of court when the verdict was announced - I guess that's what he's got to say about it.

Twiglett Tue 11-Sep-07 16:23:27

once again

TRIAL BY MEDIA does not equate to JUSTICE

do you not perhaps somewhere think that maybe a judge and jury when presented with the evidence know a little bit more than somebody who has read a sensationalised account of a tragic story written by a journalist

journalists do not fight for truth and justice, they fight for readers .. the more pathos and sensationalism the better

unless you are willing to go through the transcripts you have to believe that justice was carried out .. that's why we have a justice system .. and if it wasn't then that's why we have an appeals system

BarbieGirl Tue 11-Sep-07 16:36:56

What a tragic story. I think the Granny will have to live with the guilt forever so there is no point in sending her to Prison.

Can't believe The granny drunk 2 bottles of wine and smoked 10 joints whilst looking after the little girl OMG. She looks older than 45 too - irrelevent I know. She looks more like 65+ - must be all the booze and the joints.

LaDiDaDi Tue 11-Sep-07 16:44:19

I'm really surprised by the verdict. I can't believe that she was not criminally negligent if she had drank that much wine and smoked that much cannabis. I think that she was neglectful in her care of the little girl.

I'm uncertain if I think that she should have gone to jail etc....

In some ways for me this case draws paraalels with cases where dangerous driving or even drunk driving has caused a child's death. Then we accept that the driver will carry a terrible burden for the rest of their lives and often they are not a danger to the wider society but they still often go to prison and most people feel that is appropriate.

LaDiDaDi Tue 11-Sep-07 16:46:10


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