Strangling and smothering your wife isn't murder if she was a nasty drunk apparently

[ICantBelieveIDidThis]

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/grandad-who-strangled-wife-death-15097325

This has been reported in the national and local press.

In the Daily Mail, the report states that some of the jurors smiled and waved at the defendant.

He has been found not guilty of murder and awaits sentencing for manslaughter.

[NapQueen]

But murder and manslaughter have different definitions. No one is saying he didnt kill his wife. He himself has admitted he did.
A jury has found him not guilty of murder.
The next jury is almost certainly going to find him guilty of manslaughter.

[ICantBelieveIDidThis]

He's been found guilty of manslaughter.

He's awaiting sentencing.

[NapQueen]

Ah well there you go.

As I say the definition is different. A jury have to believe beyond all reasonable doubt that the grounds for murder were fulfilled. Clearly they did not come to that conclusion based on the evidence.

If there is a shred of doubt over the act of murder in its legal definition then they have to find him not guilty.

[Redteapot67]

I did read this thinking she didn’t get to say her side of it.
He could have been abusive and twisting it all on her (as abusive men do).
It’s shocking the jury did that

[moredoll]

To be fair they might well have reached the same verdict if the wife had killed the husband for those reasons.

[ICantBelieveIDidThis]

To be fair they might well have reached the same verdict if the wife had killed the husband for those reasons.

Unlikely.

Most women aren't strong enough to kill a conscious, struggling, adult man with their bare hands.

She would have had to have used a weapon and that alone would make her more likely to be convicted of murder.

[BMW6]

They probably could if he was pissed........

[Havabiscuit]

His wife sounds a nightmare. I suppose it’s what you call “ mitigating circumstances so manslaughter not murder. Sad case all round.

[prh47bridge]

Unlikely

Very likely. The available statistics show that women are far more likely to succeed with this type of defence than men.

[AnnieKenney]

The available statistics show...

Could you please share these statistics? Ive tried searching but cant find them anywhere and would find them very useful. Thanks!

[alardi]

If the wife had suffocated the stone dead drunk husband for years of EA including behaviour which seemed to hasten the daughter's death, many MNers would be very sympathetic. Wasn't that defence of Helen Archer last year? Pah.