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Jeremy Hunt refuses to explain how £20bn NHS funding plan will be paid for

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StaySafe · 18/06/2018 16:09

I presume that is because we will be paying for it. Expectations of Brexit money is ridiculous. The government have already promised the farmers they will keep their subsidies or equivalent funding so they are in negative figures already with that. Enhanced economic growth? fantasy land.

I would not be averse to paying a little more tax to help the NHS, but I think we are having the wool pulled over our eyes at the moment on this one, and that would be the only source of funding for it.

I'm quite shocked that no one is pushing the prevention agenda to cut costs and enhance individuals well being. Diabetes might be a good starting point, now that we know with diet it can be reversed in some cases. If they could only encourage exercise and suitable diet for older people and put back the start of needing care for as little as 6 months hospital admissions would reduce and there would be huge savings in the health and social care budgets. I'm not talking about preaching and compulsion, just making some opportunities for activities and advice. Why can't our communities have tai chi sessions every morning as they do in China?

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cdtaylornats · 18/06/2018 21:11

You do know we pay more to the EU than we get back?

You realise when we leave that stops?

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OldHag1 · 18/06/2018 21:14

Start a Thai chi class and see wh joins.

My opinion regarding he NHS is bad money management. They have already started selling off parts of the NHS.

Anyway.., May was on TV at lunchtime saying it will be funded by brexit money and more taxes.

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DGRossetti · 19/06/2018 09:52

May was on TV at lunchtime saying it will be funded by brexit money and more taxes

meaning ... more taxes. Thank God Labour didn't get in, eh ?

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SusanWalker · 19/06/2018 10:04

You do know we pay more to the EU than we get back?

You realise when we leave that stops?


You do realise that once the government have paid out the various monies spent by Brussels in the UK, the remainder will be needed to fund the rest of brexit?

More civil servants, more border staff, the investment in the (unicorn) technology which will be used on the borders, replacing and staffing agencies such as the EMA. That's not counting the fact that our economic growth has slowed considerably since the vote and all forecasts show brexit to leave us worse off, both of which will result in lower tax takes.

There's more likely to be a brexit deficit than a brexit dividend.

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sportinguista · 19/06/2018 11:13

It's very good to say have community Tai Chi classes but in Britain at least there seems to be a culture of everything costs money, usually quite a lot of it as I found out to my cost yesterday. A local provincial attraction in my city is closing for a refurb, when it re-opens the price to enter will be unaffordable for us and many others and there will be no reduction for being local as there was. It will be solely for tourists now.

This tends to be the same with much of the provision for healthy activity, a lot of the free stuff such as Parklives tends to be in 'better' areas and other stuff requires outlay which some cannot afford.

Yes, it no doubts would cut down admissions and help people stay healthier, but I suspect much of what the health service has been promised will end up going on frontline services anyway.

As regards of Brexit, it's hard to say what all the impacts will be, but it's safe to say things will likely change one way or another.

Outside of that simply adding in the rising cost of living and what people can access for free to keep healthy is going to produce a health deficit and likely that 20bn is not going to go far again.

It is more than likely from taxes and speaking as a family who really will struggle to afford any more on that score, I don't really know how we will manage.

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StaySafe · 19/06/2018 14:15

I work in care in an area where there are some quite well off people and some areas where most of the population are on state pension and not much if anything else. There is very little by way of true re-ablement and those of the better off who fund extra phisio and get out and walk to places really do seem to manage to be independent for longer. Our average timescale for caring for an individual is 2 years, so there would be huge savings if we could get people healthier even if it was just putting back the start of care a few months.
I feel that any amount of extra NHS funding will be just money down the drain if the lifestyle based diseases such as diabetes, joint failure etc. are not tackled by prevention.
It will be easy for them to tax me a bit more, there would be nothing I could do about it and I won't starve. What I can't stand is Theresa May acting as if she is doing something wonderful when her failure to deal with Brexit properly and the looming low rates of GDP will inevitably mean that the tax payer is footing the bill.

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cdtaylornats · 19/06/2018 14:45

Never mind you might get Corbyn. Everyone will get a huge payrise and 90% taxes. When the money runs out in 4 or 5 years there will be no health service.

The NHS needs fixed - removing Social Services from local authority and passing it and the budgets to the NHS might be a start.

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IMBU · 19/06/2018 14:53

Ask Dianne Abbott. She’s excellent with figures!

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