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British woman dies in Syria

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StealthPolarBear · 19/03/2018 08:07

she was only 26,fighting to make the world a better place

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StealthPolarBear · 19/03/2018 08:28

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SpringsNotSprung · 19/03/2018 08:33

I heard her Dad on the radio this morning.
Very sad.

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StealthPolarBear · 19/03/2018 09:06

I realise many men have died and I have not started threads. I think of them too and am grateful. But this was a woman , ten years younger than me. So much braver, more determined.

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StealthPolarBear · 19/03/2018 11:55

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CoteDAzur · 19/03/2018 12:15

Why are you grateful? Confused

Do you realise that she would have been prosecuted in the UK upon her return like these men?

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ProperLavs · 19/03/2018 18:59

Brave? No I don't think she was brave. She was going to a certain death and has achieved what? What she has left behind is devastation and misery.

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MrsJayy · 19/03/2018 19:04

I don't understand how she is brave I am not being disrespectful to a dead woman but going to fight for the kurds isn't the brightest thing to do.

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TheFallenMadonna · 19/03/2018 19:07

Is the opposite of brave "not bright"?
Her father said she knew she might die. She wasn't ignorant of the risks.

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TheFallenMadonna · 19/03/2018 19:10

The interview with her father was very moving. It was followed by an interview with a Turkish official who linked the group she was with to the PKK.

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MrsJayy · 19/03/2018 19:11

Oh dear I didn't mean she wasn't bright I just don't think joining kurds to kill "isis" isn't brave.

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MrsJayy · 19/03/2018 19:12

Is brave*

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Pemba · 19/03/2018 19:24

Of course she was brave! She was risking her life and she knew it. Whether you think she was wrong to go or not is another matter.

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ProperLavs · 19/03/2018 19:39

It was a pointless death that was going to achieve nothing. Now her poor family have to live with it.

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LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 19/03/2018 19:42

She was a qualified plumber.

And what the MSM won't tell you.....

A commited member of Hunts Sabs and Antifa.

But that doesn't fit the narrative of those groups being nasty shouty men so it won't get mentioned.

She fought with the all woman Kurdish group and is a fucking hero in my opinion.

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RunMummyRun68 · 19/03/2018 20:18

So what training did she have if she was a plumber?Confused

Firearms training? Etc?

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NorthernLurker · 19/03/2018 20:22

Eighty years ago committed, bright and brave people went from the uk to fight in the Spanish civil war because they thought it was the right thing to do. I think this was a brave sacrifice and it's quite clear from the coverage that Campbell knew the risks and thought the cause of women's rights was worth defending from ISIS.

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CoteDAzur · 19/03/2018 20:23

There is a fine but clear line between brave and stupid and she largely crossed it when she took up arms against the 2nd largest army of NATO on the side of a group of bandits, in a fight that is not her own, in a foreign land where she doesn't speak the language and where she would probably be sold off as a sex slave had she not dyed her hair black.

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SoupyNorman · 19/03/2018 20:23

How on earth is fighting ISIS not brave? Confused

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SoupyNorman · 19/03/2018 20:24

ISIS are the second largest army of NATO? Now I’m really confused Confused

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CoteDAzur · 19/03/2018 20:28

"linked the group she was with to the PKK."

The link is obvious. From the Wikipedia page:

"The YPJ's ideology is democratic confederalism, as propounded by Abdullah Öcalan. Having joined the YPJ, women must spend at least a month practicing military tactics and studying the political theories of Ocalan"

Ocalan is the leader of PKK, the terrorist organisation that claimed thousands of lives over decades in bomb attacks on civilians.

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CoteDAzur · 19/03/2018 20:31

"ISIS are the second largest army of NATO?"

Turkey is. She died fighting the Turkish army.

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TheFallenMadonna · 19/03/2018 20:32

My post was about the juxtaposition of the two perspectives. That's all.

It was a Turkish Army bombardment in which she died.

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CoteDAzur · 19/03/2018 20:32

"How on earth is fighting ISIS not brave?"

It's brave in the sense that jumping off the top of a building is brave.

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CoteDAzur · 19/03/2018 20:39

It's not a "perspective" that the group she joined is closely linked to PKK, a terrorist organisation. It's a fact.

You can romanticise it as much as you like, but the fact is that this young British woman left her home and her country to be cannon fodder for a foreign power, in a conflict that is not her own, in a strange land she does not belong.

It's sad that such a promising young woman died, but what she did stupid not brave.

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TheFallenMadonna · 19/03/2018 20:52

I have romanticised nothing at all. I listened to a moving interview with her father, who loved her and remembered her as a principled and passionate woman. And then an interview with an official who focused on the groups (mostly on PKK) and not the woman. As of course he would. That's what I mean by perspectives.

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