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Manchester tram push death: Woman jailed for five years

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LurkingHusband Wed 01-Nov-17 17:02:35

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-41813992

Looks like life is getting cheaper ...

A woman who killed a stranger by pushing him into the path of a tram during a drunken row has been jailed.

Charissa Brown-Wellington, 31, shoved Philip Carter, 30, between two carriages at Manchester Victoria station on 11 June. Mr Carter, from Blackley, was crushed by the tram and died at the scene.

Brown-Wellington, from Chadderton, pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was given a five-year prison term at Manchester Crown Court.

The court heard that Brown-Wellington was drunk and under the influence of drugs when she became involved in an argument with Mr Carter, who had also been drinking, at the station.

She admitted pushing him but denied intending to cause him serious harm.

The court heard she had a lengthy criminal record of 65 offences, many of which involved violence.

In sentencing, Mr Justice William Davis told Brown-Wellington that although her actions were not unprovoked they were "completely unnecessary" and "aggressive".

"There was more than one victim in this case because the effect of what you did was so dreadful. It is merely yet another example of you reacting violently when faced with something you did not like very much," he said.

Mr Carter's family said he was "missed every minute of every day". "We can try to repair our heartache although no matter how long the sentence is, it will not bring Phil back or make our loss any easier," they said.

On her release, Brown-Wellington will be subject to an extended licence period of three years as a dangerous offender.

Bob Tonge, senior investigating officer at Greater Manchester Police, said Mr Carter died in "the most horrific circumstances". "He suffered a brutal death all because she lost her temper and she will now have to live with that as she carries out her prison sentence," he said.

DoubleRamsey Wed 01-Nov-17 17:04:51

shock

The poor family

AnaWinter Wed 01-Nov-17 17:08:50

That is an absolute disgrace especially as she had 65 previous convictions. She pushed him between two carriages from the platfrom? What did she think would happen?

Alittlepotofrosie Wed 01-Nov-17 17:14:22

Five years for a life! Utterly pathetic. This is why i dare not challenge anyone about anything in public.

BarbaraOcumbungles Wed 01-Nov-17 17:20:40

5 years! Vile thug should rot.

Gingernaut Wed 01-Nov-17 17:26:49

65 previous convictions, some for violence!

She killed a man by pushing him under/in front of a tram! It was not an accident as she claimed.

WTAF! 5 years?

Please tell me someone is appealing on the grounds if unduly leniemt sentence?

The woman is effectively a loaded gun, with a hair trigger and the safety catch off! confused

LurkingHusband Wed 01-Nov-17 17:32:07

There are terrible stories every day sad

Not sure what this triggered in me ... maybe the knowledge that someone minding their own business never made it home, which is something very raw inside me hmm.

The charge - manslaughter - allows for up to life imprisonment, so I really would like to know what the mitigating circumstances were to bring it down to five years were. Bearing in mind that if the sentence was five years, she could be out in 30 months.

MadisonAvenue Wed 01-Nov-17 17:33:42

Utterly disgusting.

65 previous convictions. Fucking hell.

redshoeblueshoe Wed 01-Nov-17 20:10:35

This is local to me so it was covered on the local news last night. I can't get my head around 5 years.

MadisonAvenue Wed 01-Nov-17 20:24:04

Just read this on the BBC site
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-41835772

The woman in this case has been given 5 years for GBH with intent, she poured boiling water over the woman her husband had been having an affair with.

Herbcake Wed 01-Nov-17 20:30:07

Suppose much depends on whether she pushed him and he fell in front of the tram or she actually pushed him deliberately into the path of the tram.

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse Wed 01-Nov-17 20:34:31

I have read another article about this woman. She does sound like she is violent and unpredictable ie an obvious danger to the public. She will be out in a few years ready to lash out again at whoever crosses her path.

I wonder if the sentence would have been different had a man killed a woman in this manner.

Want2bSupermum Thu 02-Nov-17 01:46:32

madison That case with the boiling water is unfair IMO. The OW was in the home with the ladies child. WTF! I'd fucking kill the trollop after I had killed my OH. How she got 5 years is beyond me. The pair of them deserve all they got and to carry on with charges makes me think it's been carried on for custody reasons.

AccrualIntentions Thu 02-Nov-17 02:07:47

How she got 5 years is beyond me.

Wtf? How she only got 5 years is beyond me! I realise treating the OW as the actual devil is de rigueur on MN but no one deserves to have boiling water poured over them FFS.

And the case in the OP is horrendous and it's scary to think that someone like this who clearly has zero control will be out and among the public again in a few short years.

Want2bSupermum Thu 02-Nov-17 02:54:24

It's not about it being deserved but there being a rationale for the action. The wife had no previous convictions. Her DH had not been forthcoming about where he stood with their relationship. The wife said she has no recollection of doing it.

As a wife/mother I'd be absolutely livid if I walked into my home to find my Hs mistress there with my child. I wouldn't pour boiling water over the woman but I can fully understand why someone else would. I also question what the sentence would be if she wasn't Polish and say a prim and proper upper middle class woman.

SuperBeagle Thu 02-Nov-17 03:17:32

Fuck me. 5 fucking years?! How heartbroken would you be to know your family member's life was only worth 5 years in the eyes of the court, and that someone with a Bible-long list of previous offences getting just 5 years in jail is someone how considered justice?

maxthemartian Sun 05-Nov-17 21:46:49

She'd have got a lot more for fraud.
Apparently money is worth a lot more than a human life.

PinkSquash Sun 05-Nov-17 21:49:40

It's utterly ridiculous, how can a life be worth so little?

Nicknacky Sun 05-Nov-17 22:02:01

wanttobe My understanding of the case WA stoat the couple had separated some time previously and the "ow" was in fact the new girlfriend. The accused was no longer living there.

Nicknacky Sun 05-Nov-17 22:04:46

I fucking hate iPads!!! This changes my typing all the bloody time. I've re-read the link which says he did have an affair with the injured lady, but even still they were no longer together when she did that.

AmIthatbloodycold Sun 05-Nov-17 22:11:45

I can't get past the 65 previous convictions

Want2bSupermum Sun 05-Nov-17 22:28:07

nick I was reading an article in the guardian. The judge said the husband had not been forthcoming about his new relationship with his now ex wife. When the incident happened they were separated but he had agreed to give their marriage another go. If this is what happened the person who is to blame for this is the man. He should have been honest with his wife and not even entertained the notion of them remaining married.

LurkingHusband Wed 08-Nov-17 12:15:20

Meanwhile, 6 and 8 years for killing someone in a drunken road race

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/drivers-jailed-killing-teen-mum-13873609#ICID=nsm

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