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PM threatens to disrupt counter-terrorism if she doesn’t get her way

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user1488581876 Thu 30-Mar-17 00:03:41

Who needs counter-terrorism?

ISIS, at least, can celebrate the triggering of Brexit with something to look forward to:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/29/brexit-eu-condemns-mays-blackmail-over-security-cooperation

So no trade deal, no counter-terrorism cooperation.

Of course, terrorists are never British so keeping out all those pesky eu 'forriners' will solve the problem of terrorism. hmm

LurkingHusband Thu 30-Mar-17 09:10:20

Any security deal with the EU must respect the ECHR, irrespective of Brexiteer tantrums.

scaryteacher Thu 30-Mar-17 10:08:29

She is pointing out what the UK brings to the table in terms of the negotiation, and that the EU should be aware of it. I note that the slimy Verhofstadt opened his big mouth again. When Belgium gets its act together in terms of acting on intelligence and coordinating its security, then perhaps he could comment.

The EU doesn't like spades being called spades...they like to dance around the garden first.

I don't see it as any different from EU demands that we have to agree a lump sum divorce settlement before anything else can be discussed.

LurkingHusband Thu 30-Mar-17 10:22:32

She is pointing out what the UK brings to the table in terms of the negotiation, and that the EU should be aware of it

She is doing it a way that a passenger in a car says "go where I want, or I will steer the car off the road." .

The EU is very aware of what the UK brings to the table - they've had to listen to 43 years of it.

RortyCrankle Thu 30-Mar-17 11:12:00

Totally agree with scaryteacher

Perish the thought that we should have anything on our side of the table. Sounds like you want all the chips piled up on their side - your desperation at wanting to see Brexit be bad for the UK can only be described as pitiful.

Cretancuisine Thu 30-Mar-17 11:35:38

"The EU doesn't like spades being called spades"

No, they have 23 official and 60 indigenous regional and minority languages with adequate words for spade.

Much more sophisticated.

'Calling a spade a spade, 'dancing around the garden (WTF!?) 'slimy', 'divorce settlement', 'bring to the table' 'opened his big mouth'.... brexit is brexit..... 'chips piled up on their side'

This sort of idiomatic language and diatribe offends my sense of aesthetics; it doesn't convey the poster's point well, reflecting badly on the writer. For what it's worth.

RoyFoster Thu 30-Mar-17 11:53:57

A threat is only worth something if it is credible. Would May put British and European lives at risk by refusing to share intelligence? I don't believe it.

It both sounds desperate and destroys good-will. Not clever.

hubris Thu 30-Mar-17 11:55:57

But lurking's car analogy is just fine and doesn't reflect on his intelligence at all, cretan? grin

LurkingHusband Thu 30-Mar-17 12:24:46

A threat is only worth something if it is credible. Would May put British and European lives at risk by refusing to share intelligence? I don't believe it.

I do. Which tells you all you need to know about how cynical I have become since Blairs illegal war. He happily sacrificed countless lives.

And - as Leavers keep harping on - the only British lives worth saving are Leavers. Remainers don't count, as I recall.

prh47bridge Thu 30-Mar-17 20:25:18

She is not threatening to withdraw co-operation. She is simply pointing out that our shared security arrangements are due to our membership of the EU and that, unless agreement is reached covering such matters, co-operation would inevitably be weakened. The BBC has this right - she is highlighting the mutual benefits to both sides of reaching a deal about our future relationship.

the only British lives worth saving are Leavers. Remainers don't count, as I recall

How ridiculous. I have seen Leavers suggesting that the more extreme Remainers should leave but none suggesting that Remainers lives are not worth saving. Even if a few on the extreme fringe think that it is by no means a majority view amongst Leavers.

specialsubject Fri 31-Mar-17 09:23:46

The 'missing you already' is a very clear message . attempts to change the EU from within failed, so from without isn't going to work. Not news.

Cries of 'blackmail' from the EU also give the same message.

About as helpful as the 'waah! Don't like you' playground blubbing on this thread.

scaryteacher Sat 01-Apr-17 12:37:57

Cretan I don't think that the EU is more sophisticated at all, and yes, they prefer a convoluted route to their destination, rather than taking the direct one. A friend, who was an ambassador to the PSC, said that getting a decision was like herding cats. Dh, who was sent to the EU as a Seconded National Expert for three years, concurred.

Fyi, having seen Verhofstadt, he does have a large mouth, and is very shiny/greasy.

'Divorce settlement' that's what it is, even Tusk refers to Brexit as a divorce.

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