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Another violent cannabis smoker... oh wait, no

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user1478625507 Sat 21-Jan-17 21:11:33

bostonjournal.org/woman-was-so-drunk-she-burst-into-wrong-home-attacked-girl-then-fell-down-stairs/

Alcohol as usual. That vile, toxic car-fuel like substance which is far more dangerous than the medicinal herb that is illegal because of racism (google it).

ImperialBlether Sat 21-Jan-17 21:12:54

Yeah, because stoners really are the most useful members of society.

RortyCrankle Sun 22-Jan-17 01:31:03

So are you a pot smoking tea total, OP?. No possible liver damage, just possible psychosis or paranoia.

scaryclown Sun 22-Jan-17 01:49:18

eh? if you think cannabis is more.likely to cause paranoia and psychosis than alcohol, you are definitely on somethimg.

That 'he's looking at me funny' , 'i can do anything' 'they alll hate me' ' i am.a genius' stuff that happems every weekend on the booze is paranoia.. and a whole range I f temporary and long lasting mental states are caused by alcohol use.....

CryptoFascist Sun 22-Jan-17 01:51:58

"Tea total"
Those that totally drink tea

UnbornMortificado Sun 22-Jan-17 01:57:47

I hate all this medicinal crap my friends little boy was dying of cancer. Right up until before he died he had arseholes linking cannabis oils been able to cure it on his FB wall.

It may be good for pain relief but there is no one universal cure for cancer and if there was it's not cannabis oil.

ShoutOutToMyEx Sun 22-Jan-17 02:12:01

"Tea total"
Those that totally drink tea

gringringrin

I don't completely disagree OP. I wouldn't be surprised if booze costs the state much more than any other drug, in money, manpower and time. And I'm pretty certain it's the only drug involved in most of the fights taking place right now on my home town's high street!

IndianaMoleWoman Sun 22-Jan-17 03:41:24

If my neighbour is drinking alcohol it doesn't fill my flat with rancid smoke. If my neighbour is drinking alcohol it doesn't magically pour down my children's throats while they sleep.

Have you ever taught a child who stinks of cannabis? I have, many times. I've never taught a child who stinks of their parents' alcohol.

Millions, if not billions, of people manage to drink alcohol without becoming violent (myself, and everyone I know, included).

My cousin ended up being commited due to cannabis related psychosis. Like all substances ingested by humans, it has wildly differing effects on different people. Like all substances, people use it inappropriately - a colleague of mine was hit by a drug-driver.

Are you suggesting that alcohol should be made illegal? Or cannabis legalised? Or both? Either way, a minority would do stupid things whilst under the influence of either substance.

RortyCrankle Sun 22-Jan-17 14:31:08

Probably ShoutOutToMyEx but drinkers of alcohol (and smokers) pay a hefty tax which contributes to the Treasury substantially. How much tax did the Government receive from cannabis users? I can safely guarantee zero.

Deathraystare Sun 22-Jan-17 14:34:29

Looks quite scarey with that trout pout face, quite apart from whatever substance/alcohol was in her system!

Backt0Black Sun 22-Jan-17 14:36:38

another lazy DailyFail journo looking to hope for a wave of agreement so can say 'mumsnetters are pro weed'

?

MycatsaPirate Sun 22-Jan-17 14:41:31

My ex smokes weed.

He has multiple convictions for assault and dv. He punched my neighbours elderly father in the face because he parked too close to his van.

He is paranoid and aggressive. He spends all his money on drugs and resents paying CM for his dd.

Not saying alcohol is any better but please don't think cannabis is actually a nice drug. It's not.

FannyWisdom Sun 22-Jan-17 14:41:46

I'm pro weed.

Not sure what weed has to do with owt though.

Drunk woman attacks someone..... no weed used....cannabis as relevant as cheese.

Reality16 Sun 22-Jan-17 14:48:45

Why have you mentioned cannabis in an article about alcohol?

UnbornMortificado Sun 22-Jan-17 14:52:57

Completely agree with mycats DD2's dad has a long criminal record due to it.

Chucking a Hoover at me whilst heavily pregnant as he couldn't get any was a particular low point.

I could give another 10 examples of the top of my head.

FatOldBag Sun 22-Jan-17 14:54:54

The problem with weed isn't violence though, is it? It's the effect on mental health. Do feel free to avoid either or both though, they're not exactly great for you.

user1478625507 Sun 22-Jan-17 15:04:46

+Reality16 Because of the hypocrisy. Any article about a non-alcohol drug resulting in violence immediately results in all the usual "see, don't do drugs kids" crap, even though alcohol is one of the worst drugs out there and far worse than weed by every objective analysis.

Reality16 Sun 22-Jan-17 15:12:12

Because of the hypocrisy. That's not what I asked. I asked why you mentioned cannabis. No one is being hypocritical. The situation involved alcohol. Not cannabis. why did you feel the need to bring cannabis into it? Why do yo want to compare? It's not necessary.

JustAnotherPoster00 Sun 22-Jan-17 15:15:29

There has been no proven link to the smoking of cannabis in adults and the rise in psychosis type illnesses.

www.schres-journal.com/article/S0920-9964(13)00610-5/abstract

DixieNormas Sun 22-Jan-17 15:18:27

Exh had an addiction to weed, he was never violent but started to totally loose his grip on reality. He was smoking so much that I was the one having to pay all the bills/rent etc His mh has really suffered ,as has relationship with his family and children

WickedLazy Sun 22-Jan-17 15:33:20

I don't drink, as it turns me into a different person. I'm vile when I'm drunk. I know a lot of people who're the same, yet they still go out drinking every weekend, are vile to people (and in general, never seen someone just stoned piss themselves) and would never admit they have a problem with alcohol. I think op's point is that alcohol is the golden boy substance, that never gets the proper criticism it should, and weed is the scapegoat substance that gets tons of flak every time it's involved in a crime (or even a misdemeanor).

I don't think one is worse than the other, for a start different people will react differently. Those with mental health issues or violent tendancies should probably avoid both. I think both should be legal, but both subject to sensible regulations and tax. Different strokes for different folks.

UnbornMortificado Sun 22-Jan-17 15:33:28

JustAnother it may not be proven but every MH worker I've been under agrees the two are linked.

My DH has schizophrenia he's been told by his cpn and psychiatrist his previous cannabis use is probably a factor. DH agrees with them.

I've been hospitalised before. Most the male patients I've been in with (including DH) have cannabis use is common.

FannyWisdom Sun 22-Jan-17 16:13:42

Mental health and addiction are always linked Unborn it doesn't mean to say why.

There aren't any unbiased long term studies, tobacco industry competition paid for those we use.

The short term ones that are around now are debunking some widely held views.

We will find out soon enough mind, America are cashing in so we'll likely follow.

JustAnotherPoster00 Sun 22-Jan-17 17:05:35

JustAnother it may not be proven but every MH worker I've been under agrees the two are linked.

So? Do you think science should be based on anecdote then?

ShoutOutToMyEx Sun 22-Jan-17 18:06:33

Probably ShoutOutToMyEx but drinkers of alcohol (and smokers) pay a hefty tax which contributes to the Treasury substantially. How much tax did the Government receive from cannabis users? I can safely guarantee zero.

Oh completely agree. There's only one way round that that I can think of though - legalise it and tax the shit out of it.

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