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HEATHROW AIRPORT expansion has been given go ahead - 3rd runway etc

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RTKangaMummy Tue 25-Oct-16 11:46:22

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RTKangaMummy Tue 25-Oct-16 11:47:50

The government has approved a third runway at Heathrow to expand UK airport capacity.
Ministers approved the long-awaited decision at a cabinet committee meeting on Tuesday.
Transport Secretary Chris Grayling called the decision "truly momentous" and said expansion would improve the UK's connections with the rest of the world and support trade and jobs.
He will make a statement to the House of Commons about 13:00.
Expanding airport capacity in the South East of England has been a political hot potato for many years.
Although Heathrow has always been the favourite among businesses, it has attracted the most opposition from MPs with constituencies near the airport or under flight paths.
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Last week, Prime Minister Theresa May moved to head off possible Cabinet resignations by giving ministers freedom to speak out against the decision. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson and Education Secretary Justine Greening have been vocal critics of Heathrow expansion.
Downing Street said any ministers wanting to voice their opposition to the plans would have to seek permission from the prime minister in advance.
'Opposition'
A study last year, led by Sir Howard Davies, recommended a third runway at Heathrow, but other options included a new runway at Gatwick or extending one of Heathrow's existing runways.
Ms Greening is expected to give her reaction to the decision in a message to her constituents in Putney, south-west London, a source said.
Mr Johnson will also make a statement.
A public consultation will now be held on the effects of airport expansion before the government makes a final decision as part of a national policy statement on aviation.
MPs will then vote on that decision in the winter of 2017-18. It is unlikely that any new runway capacity would be operational before 2025.
Construction is not likely to begin until 2020 or 2021, the Airports Commission has said.
A final decision on which London airport to expand has been years in the making.
In 2009, former prime minister David Cameron pledged that there would be no new runway at Heathrow.
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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Tue 25-Oct-16 11:59:26

Do we really need another runway anywhere? Massively expensive. The environmental knock on effects will be huge. More noise, pollution, overcrowding on the transport connections and roads to Heathrow. Etc etc etc.

I'd rather the money was put into the NHS, personally.

RTKangaMummy Tue 25-Oct-16 12:50:21

I agree with more money going to NHS but have a feeling that gov think/put money into different areas that even if they didn't wouldn't put it into NHS

We live quite close and so have the planes going over us on certain flight paths or if they are stacking

BUT they aren't really flying over us very low iyswim

RTKangaMummy Tue 25-Oct-16 13:12:22

The government has approved a third runway at Heathrow to expand UK airport capacity.
Ministers approved the long-awaited decision at a cabinet committee meeting on Tuesday.
Transport Secretary Chris Grayling called the decision "truly momentous" and said expansion would improve the UK's connections with the rest of the world and support trade and jobs.
He will make a statement to the House of Commons about 13:00.
A wide range of unions and business groups welcomed the decision to expand Heathrow. TUC general secretary Frances O'Grady said it was "absolutely vital for Britain", while CBI chief Paul Drechsler said it would create jobs and boost economic growth.
Heathrow management said the airport was ready to deliver a third runway that was "fair, affordable and secures the benefits of expansion for the whole of the UK".
However, Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, said it was the wrong decision for both London and the UK.
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Expanding airport capacity in the South East of England has been a political hot potato for many years.
Although Heathrow has always been the favourite among businesses, it has attracted the most opposition from MPs with constituencies near the airport or under flight paths.
Zac Goldsmith, the Tory MP for Richmond Park, had threatened to resign if Heathrow expansion was approved and called the announcement "catastrophic". He is expected to make a statement later on Tuesday.
The shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, whose Hayes and Harlington constituency includes Heathrow, said he had opposed expanding the airport for the past 30 years and that "nothing has changed".
Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson and Education Secretary Justine Greening also have been vocal critics of Heathrow expansion.
Ms Greening is expected to give her reaction to the decision in a message to her constituents in Putney, south-west London, while Mr Johnson will also make a statement.
Analysis: Simon Jack, business editor
We have a long way to go before the we see the proverbial shovels in the ground - there will be legal and planning challenges aplenty to come. However, with today's decision to recommend a third runway, this government has arrived at a point its predecessors failed to. From beating ourselves up for not being to build anything, the UK is suddenly building everything.
Heathrow was chosen because of the extra boost it gives to the UK economy, but it is not the only mammoth project out there. After a last-minute wobble, the £14bn Hinkley Point nuclear power station was given the green light, while and the biggest project of them all is coming down the track fast.
Construction on the £42bn HS2 is scheduled to begin next year - and that is probably not all. Chancellor Philip Hammond has hinted he may reveal some moderate borrowing to fund targeted infrastructure spending in his Autumn Statement next month. It's enough to make the Victorians sit up and take notice.
If projections for a fairly sharp post-Brexit slowdown in the economy next year are correct then we may need this spending boost. If these projects proceed on time, there is something else we will need: people to build all this stuff. With unemployment close to historic lows, it's not clear we have enough. Like the Victorians did, it seems very likely we will need to look abroad to find the workers for our golden age of infrastructure - and that, post-Brexit, will present a political rather than an engineering challenge.
Last week, Prime Minister Theresa May moved to head off possible Cabinet resignations by giving ministers some freedom to speak out against the decision.
A study last year, led by Sir Howard Davies, recommended a third runway at Heathrow, but other options included a new runway at Gatwick or extending one of Heathrow's existing runways.
A public consultation will now be held on the effects of airport expansion before the government makes a final decision as part of a national policy statement on aviation.
MPs will then vote on that decision in the winter of 2017-18. It is unlikely that any new runway capacity would be operational before 2025.
Construction is not likely to begin until 2020 or 2021, the Airports Commission has said.
Would you be affected if Heathrow was expanded? Do you live nearby or is your business dependent on Heathrow? Let us know about your experiences. Email haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk with your stories.
Please include a contact number if you are willing to speak to a BBC journalist. You can also contact us in the following ways:
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Jupiter2Mars Tue 25-Oct-16 13:30:35

Where exactly at Heathrow?

RTKangaMummy Tue 25-Oct-16 13:39:01

Harmondsworth village (iirc) will be gone sadsadsadsadsad

RTKangaMummy Tue 25-Oct-16 13:40:14

The flight paths will be going NW

There is a map showing the new flight paths

Jupiter2Mars Tue 25-Oct-16 13:43:52

So, in between the current north runway and the M4? Running through he M25 or stopping short of it?

This is different from the plan to extend the north runway through the M25, isn't it?

Either way traffic around the m25 / m4 interchange is going to be worse than ever for several years.

Exactly which areas will have extra flights coming overhead? Is it everywhere within a huge radius of just one big new flight path?

It really feels like there surely must be a better option than this.

Meadows76 Tue 25-Oct-16 13:48:31

I agree with more money going to NHS but have a feeling that gov think/put money into different areas that even if they didn't wouldn't put it into NHS. How? That's not even a thing. NHS funding comes from the UK pot. Heathrow is a privately owned company.

FourToTheFloor Tue 25-Oct-16 13:49:32

I am truly am surprised with all the money in West London this got through. I work in West London, and those big planes coming in low would seriously piss me off if it were my home.

Jupiter2Mars Tue 25-Oct-16 13:59:23

If the new flights are coming in from the NW, does that mean they'll be coming in over Slough and Maidenhead?

(Maidenhead is Theresa May's constituency - so that's a brave move from her!)

If so, then why is Zac Goldsmith resigning because his constituency is Richmond which is to the east (sort of SEE unless my map reading skills are off)

Jupiter2Mars Tue 25-Oct-16 14:06:31

I too this from the BBC website. They are going to expand over the M25!
I pity the people who live in Slough or Uxbridge.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Tue 25-Oct-16 14:12:09

I really hope TM constituents demand her resignation as MP.

Jupiter2Mars Tue 25-Oct-16 14:14:32

Imagine if your house was in Sipson, but not under the new runway, just looking straight down it from 10ft away! I think I'd have a heart attack every time a plane came into land!

bluetongue Tue 25-Oct-16 14:18:53

Pretty sure all of Sipson will have the option of selling for compensation if the runway gets built from what I've read.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Tue 25-Oct-16 14:20:36

It's madness having all the planes overhead the most densely populated parts of London.

Fucking madness to line the pockets of the some fat industry cats.?

Quornflakes Tue 25-Oct-16 15:00:24

About time we got a new runway, long overdue.

Jupiter2Mars Tue 25-Oct-16 15:09:02

I thought the property compensation light blue shaded area only got compensation, rather than their house bought off them? It would make more sense to buy the houses, but I thought the map key indicated otherwise?

A new runway is overdue. Its not about fat cats either. Its about propsperity for everyone in the UK. But why does it have to be Heathrow?
Why couldn't we change it so that Heathrow is for flights to and from international business destinations (New york etc) and the other London airports specialise in the leisure type international destinations (e.g. Kos or Majorca).

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Tue 25-Oct-16 15:16:12

We live in SE London. The planes start queuing overhead to land at Heathrow from about 4am. I can't see that getting any better with more runways.

However, I strongly suspect it will never happen, so maybe we're all worrying for nothing.

Lorelei76 Tue 25-Oct-16 15:21:09

if they do do it, how long would it be before planes were operational?

I'm just wondering how long people have to move....!

Jupiter2Mars Tue 25-Oct-16 15:26:12

The problem with moving is you have to find someone who wants to live in your old house.

Lorelei76 Tue 25-Oct-16 16:01:07

Jupiter - yes, hence I was wondering how long people have to achieve this awful task. I guess there's no compensation coming?

BeckerLleytonNever Tue 25-Oct-16 16:03:35

we don't have a choice where we live-council house or the streets!

its right by Heathrow, me and DC are chronically asthmatic, being here 3 years has made us worse than ever, cant see us surviing much longer breathing in this toxic air, cant even open windows because of the filth and noise, DCs autistic and the noise freaks her out, she has to wear ear defenders IN the house as well as outside. she cant sleep properly either, she cant exactly wear ear defenders at night and cant take ear plugs or anything.

the planes are literally skimming the roof as they take off and land, we might as well be on the fucking runway!

they take off/land every 35 seconds or so relentlessly with no respite except for maybe a couple of hours a WEEK.

the pollution is horrendous, cant even hang washing out as it gets splattered by emissions, yes its THAT bad.

the mayor wants pollution out of central London but is quite happy for it all pushed out to outer London eh?

THATS what you should put in any programme.

some people are used to it, maybe they have no other choice and as a poster above says its all very well to move if you can but who'd want to live by an airport????

its unhealthy, its destroying peoples health, especially children, but of course, jobs and money are more important.

Lorelei76 Tue 25-Oct-16 16:29:38

oh Becker, Im against it completely, I really feel for you.

still wondering re time frame though. Maybe it won't happen, that would be good!

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